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Old 08-23-2024, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefmg
Joe, are you familiar with the phrase "A lie can go around the world before the truth gets its boots on."? Because that is sort of pertinent to this.
How many times were these lies told this week:

Trump:
--said the KK were "very fine people"
--created "Project 2025"
--wanted to inject bleach into patients
--will shut down IVF
--will Federalize a ban on abortion
yada yada yada

If I have a friend who is continually caught in a lie, they stop being a friend.


Red-headed Beyonce...


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Originally Posted by chiefmg
Joe, are you familiar with the phrase "A lie can go around the world before the truth gets its boots on."? Because that is sort of pertinent to this.
Very much yes.

You see my avatar? "Ministry of Truth" That wasn't a random choice. I'm highly conscious of my position as a liberal shill within the mainstream media, and I try to use that experience to provide the members of this form with an insider's perspective on how we, the press, manipulate you all.


On a related note...

Sky News Australia is a MainStream Media network similar to Fox News in the US. And I absolutely love the fact that they let a young brown woman named Rita Panahi go on long anti-woke rants in a regular segment entitled Lefties Losing It.





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Old 08-24-2024, 03:18 AM
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This is why I like Kanekoa the Great. He brings the receipts.
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"Governments and oppressors don't censor lies. They don't fear lies. They fear the truth, and that's what they censor." -RFK Jr, 8/23/24
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Of course, as the GOP plans its strategy to attack the credibility of the 2024 election come November, it doesn't help that former Trump insiders with actual first-hand knowledge are coming forward and sharing their version of the truth about the former President.

People like Trump's former press secretary Stephanie Grisham, who claimed that "Behind closed doors, Trump mocks his supporters. He calls them 'basement dwellers'."

She went on to also spread her version of the truth, as follows:

"The Trump family became my family. I spent Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s at Mar-a-Lago. I saw him when the cameras were off. On a hospital visit one time when people were dying in the ICU, he was mad that the cameras were not watching him. He has no empathy, no morals and no fidelity to the truth."




(That's Trump's wife Melania saying "No" there, btw, not the Chief himself.)



And that's OK. Far too many people want a President who is honest and sincere and the sort of guy person you'd want to have a beer with.

Personally, I want a president who I am afraid will sucker-punch me and then steal my wallet if I turn away from him. Because that's how you achieve national supremacy in a world filled with Vladimir Putins and Volodymyr Zelenskyys and Xi Jinpings and Benjamin Netanyahoos and Mahmoud Abbases.

But far too many leftists are ashamed to be superior. Or even good, if would seem. We must all be equal, and since not everyone can be good, we must all strive for poverty and oppression.

Except, of course, for those whom we nominate to oppress us.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Of course, as the GOP plans its strategy to attack the credibility of the 2024 election come November, it doesn't help that former Trump insiders with actual first-hand knowledge are coming forward and sharing their version of the truth about the former President.

People like Trump's former press secretary Stephanie Grisham, who claimed that "Behind closed doors, Trump mocks his supporters. He calls them 'basement dwellers'."

She went on to also spread her version of the truth, as follows:

"The Trump family became my family. I spent Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s at Mar-a-Lago. I saw him when the cameras were off. On a hospital visit one time when people were dying in the ICU, he was mad that the cameras were not watching him. He has no empathy, no morals and no fidelity to the truth."




(That's Trump's wife Melania saying "No" there, btw, not the Chief himself.)



And that's OK. Far too many people want a President who is honest and sincere and the sort of guy person you'd want to have a beer with.

Personally, I want a president who I am afraid will sucker-punch me and then steal my wallet if I turn away from him. Because that's how you achieve national supremacy in a world filled with Vladimir Putins and Volodymyr Zelenskyys and Xi Jinpings and Benjamin Netanyahoos and Mahmoud Abbases.

But far too many leftists are ashamed to be superior. Or even good, if would seem. We must all be equal, and since not everyone can be good, we must all strive for poverty and oppression.

Except, of course, for those whom we nominate to oppress us.
Why in the world does everyone assume every story about Trump? If someone says it--AND THE MSM ECHOES IT--it must be true, right? The MSM has weaponized these fantasies, so much that we just dealt with almost eight years of the Steele dossier lies about hookers pissing on beds. There were some fine people on both sides of that bed!

And what about the timing?


Is this true? And if so, was the MSM or DNC (same thing) holding it" as a "Trump card?" If they're holding this information, imagine what they're holding on Kamala, Clinton, Strzok, Brennan, et al?


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Originally Posted by cordycord
Why in the world does everyone assume every story about Trump?
Assume... what?


Anyway, a while back, Brainey linked to a thing about Disney murdering someone because they had an allergy and then saying "not our fault" because they watched TV. And all of the important facts in the article were backwards, but the basic underlying idea was essentially there.

So, here you go:


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We only get the stories that are fed to us by the media. The important ones are hidden away.
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Even badly-drawn jokes can be funny - from Powerline


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Originally Posted by xturner
Even badly-drawn jokes can be funny - from Powerline


I like this one...

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Originally Posted by cordycord
Why in the world does everyone assume every story about Trump?
My question having gone un-answered, I repeat it:

Assume... what?
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RFK Jr has openly admitted earlier this year in interviews I have heard that he was a cocaine addict and dealer for many years. It's not like somebody uncovered something he was trying to hide or anything. He openly discusses it as a part of his journey.
See also- people are uninformed idiots.
He also discusses how the CIA killed his father and uncle and if he gets a chance he's going to **** them up royally.

He talks about Anthony fauci being a crook and worse. He talks about the summit that was held at a Resort in Georgia with the pharmaceutical companies and the CDC folks and the NIH folks about the hepatitis B vaccine introduced around 1989 for children causing autism and Asperger's. There was a transcript and it was leaked to him. The real evil is that they have not pulled it from the market. He wants heads to roll for that. BTW, they held it at a resort instead of in any federal building so that they would not be subject to the Freedom of Information Act.
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I was raised in a stereotypical Southern Baptist household in the 80s. As such, I was of course aware of a man named Mike Warnke.

He was a very popular author, comedian, and motivational speaker at Charismatic revival meetings and such. Claimed to have been part of a Satanic cult in his 20s. Told stories about sex orgies, using and selling cocaine, rituals involving kinapping and rape, drank blood at a Satanic mass with Charles Manson, all the good stuff.

But then he was saved by Jesus Christ, started his own "ministry", claimed to have multiple PhDs, was frequently cited as an expert on the occult in print and television, sold lots of books and audiotapes, etc.

It was all lies, of course. After a year-long undercover investigation, Cornerstone magazine exposed Warnke as a fraud at the Christian Booksellers Association convention in June 1992. Warnke tried to blame everything on his second ex-wife Carolyn and doubled-down, while slightly adjusting some of his claims. He went silent for about a decade until he'd blown through all the cash he'd bilked people out of, and now he's writing books again.



Preachers and politicians have one thing in common: they are great showmen. They know exactly what people want to hear, and are skilled at telling stories which get the crowds fired up.
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So you're saying RFK is full of **** and the drug companies are not conspiring against the People.
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So you're saying RFK is full of **** and the drug companies are not conspiring against the People.
I don't think those two things are related.

Yes, pharma companies are acting in their own best financial interest, which includes using manipulating all three branches of the Federal government in order to maintain the status quo, prevent competition, encourage governments and other organizations to mandate the use of the product, and to express a preference for developing new, patentable treatments as opposed to decreasing prices and continuing to support less profitable product lines.

Same goes for car insurance. Do you think it's a coincidence that all 50 states have vastly different sets of regulations for both, leading to a nearly indecipherable hodgepodge which the average consumer cannot understand.


And RFK is (or, was) a candidate for President. So, by definition, everything which he says should be taken with a grain of salt, as it is a mix of exaggerations, speculation, and outright falsehood, seasoned with just enough verifiable truth to seem plausible.

I do not care to speculate how much of what he falsifies is deliberate vs. how much is the result of the neurological impairments he has suffered vs. plain ole simplemindedness.

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Well he is certainly catering to my simplemindedness with his attacks on the health "care" industry leaders as I see them as even worse than politicians. I don't care much for anyone in health care anymore either as I see them as willing conspirators.

How's about that for simpleminded?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
My question having gone un-answered, I repeat it:

Assume... what?
That they're all true.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I was raised in a stereotypical Southern Baptist household in the 80s. As such, I was of course aware of a man named Mike Warnke.

He was a very popular author, comedian, and motivational speaker at Charismatic revival meetings and such. Claimed to have been part of a Satanic cult in his 20s. Told stories about sex orgies, using and selling cocaine, rituals involving kinapping and rape, drank blood at a Satanic mass with Charles Manson, all the good stuff.

But then he was saved by Jesus Christ, started his own "ministry", claimed to have multiple PhDs, was frequently cited as an expert on the occult in print and television, sold lots of books and audiotapes, etc.

It was all lies, of course. After a year-long undercover investigation, Cornerstone magazine exposed Warnke as a fraud at the Christian Booksellers Association convention in June 1992. Warnke tried to blame everything on his second ex-wife Carolyn and doubled-down, while slightly adjusting some of his claims. He went silent for about a decade until he'd blown through all the cash he'd bilked people out of, and now he's writing books again.



Preachers and politicians have one thing in common: they are great showmen. They know exactly what people want to hear, and are skilled at telling stories which get the crowds fired up.
I think you've inadvertently hit on something that people like; Trump isn't a politician. Also while Kennedy comes from a political family, his goals haven't seemed to be to govern, but instead to change some issues regarding food and medicine. In other words, if anything RFK is a reluctant politician. RFK wouldn't get my vote for his stances on the 2nd A and other bedrock principles, but he's got the receipts to back up what he talks about with food and pharma.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
That they're all true.
People believe things which reinforce their existing beliefs.

We in the far-left mainstream media have all of the snowflakes convinced that Trump is the devil and that if he is elected it'll the end of US Democracy.

They are so hyper-fixated on that idea that they applauded wildly when the DNC tossed out the results of a fair election and substituted a new candidate because they didn't like the polling numbers.

It was brilliant.


And it works both ways. Joe Rogan and Alex Jones have you convinced that you've done your own research and determined that Biden (and now Harris) are "the real threat," and that RFK is a brilliant biomedical researcher who also somehow has the whole inside scoop on the JFK assassination despite having no insider access.


And we're all doing it for the same reason: money. Sure, your liberties will have to be sacrificed and our nation reduced to a dictatorship, but that's a small price to pay for pumping up our short-term earnings.
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