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Old 12-22-2022, 10:49 AM
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JFK, speaking at the University of Washington, in Nov 1961:



If one considers the state of the world in late 1961, with regard to US military involvement in Cuba, Korea, and Vietnam, such language is... dangerous.
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JFK was the last true President of the People until Trump. Trump is lucky they didn't assassinate him as well. I guess undermining him since before he was elected was enough.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
No, I still view the fact that a huge number of the files in that data-dump appear to have been either created or altered after the date on which H. Biden relinquished possession of the laptop as meaning that its contents are suspect at best.
However, I recognize the futility of trying to argue such points with certain folks. It's easier to just try to keep pace, and question the latest silly thing.
Are you going to directly address my question about the thermostats and the Italian satellites?
Altered digital files can easily be proven forensically...you know that.

As for thermostats and Italian satellites, my point is that rather than blast the silly conspiracy theorists, wait a few months....at the rate the other conspiracies have fallen and the proof shown that our government has taken political sides, bigly, the best course seems to wait it out and treat it all skeptically, like I do with anything coming from the MSM.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Trump is lucky they didn't assassinate him as well.
Indeed.

Regardless of who "they" is, the fact that there was not a single assassination attempt (that we know of) is perhaps the one thing I find most surprising about the Trump presidency overall.

I would have bet money on it if you'd have asked me to wager in 2017 / 2018.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
Altered digital files can easily be proven forensically...you know that.
Yes, and it has been proven forensically.

That's my point. We all know that the data has been altered, we do not actually know that any of it is authentic, and yet some folks are still treating it as gospel. The fact that copies of the altered data are sitting out there on a web server hosted by a former Trump staffer... I'm not even fully certain how to finish that sentence. It's just not a reliable source of information.




Originally Posted by cordycord
As for thermostats and Italian satellites, my point is that rather than blast the silly conspiracy theorists, wait a few months....at the rate the other conspiracies have fallen and the proof shown that our government has taken political sides, bigly, the best course seems to wait it out and treat it all skeptically, like I do with anything coming from the MSM.
I do believe that this is the first time I've heard you suggest that a claim which is critical of the integrity of the 2020 election should be treated skeptically, and with a wait-and-see approach.
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How the FBI Copied Parts of the Debunked Steele Dossier Directly Into Its Spy Requests

"In short, the FBI fabricated conclusions from fabrications and turned them into sworn representations before the powerful Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court."

The FBI took paid-for opposition research and, with the blessing of the DNC, used it to wiretap a president-elect. And no one is in jail.

Stop and think about that one for a while.
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Originally Posted by golftdibrad
Someone is playing a joke on (eff) the atf


According to the truth machine, this is a store in Bailey, CO:



As it should be.

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"We respect the 1st Amendment, but speaking freely says a lot"

"We respect the 2nd Amendment, but owning a gun says a lot"

"We respect the 3rd Amendment, but not wanting to house and feed the military for free says a lot"

""We respect the 4th Amendment, but asserting private property says a lot"

""We respect the 5th Amendment, but not wanting to be witness against yourself says a lot"

"We respect the 6th Amendment, but not wanting to be locked up indefinitely without trial says a lot"

"We respect the 7th Amendment, but expecting a jury trial and not wanting to be tried repeatedly for the same crime says a lot"

"We respect the 8th Amendment, but not wanting to be tortured says a lot"

"We respect the 9th Amendment, but expecting to have the same rights as everyone else says a lot"

"We respect the 10th Amendment, but not wanting the federal government to control every aspect of your life says a lot"
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long sepsis is a bitch.

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long sepsis is a bitch.
It's sad when someone makes up a false assertion, attributes it to "the man," displays it in such a way as to make it seem like yet more evidence of a conspiracy, and then smart people pick it up and re-post it without even thinking...

Disclaimer: I didn't know who Charlbi Dean was five minutes ago. She looks weird, and she's too skinny.

But it took less time than that to find reporting by both Fox News and the NY Post stating that the cause of death was capnocytophaga bacterial infection.

The relevance of the car crash in 2009 is that she had to have her spleen removed as a result. Spleens play a role in fighting bacterial infections (they produce antibodies and monocytes), which is why most people don't automatically drop dead every time they get a cut on their hand.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
"We respect the 1st Amendment, but speaking freely says a lot"

"We respect the 2nd Amendment, but owning a gun says a lot"

"We respect the 3rd Amendment, but not wanting to house and feed the military for free says a lot"

""We respect the 4th Amendment, but asserting private property says a lot"

""We respect the 5th Amendment, but not wanting to be witness against yourself says a lot"

"We respect the 6th Amendment, but not wanting to be locked up indefinitely without trial says a lot"

"We respect the 7th Amendment, but expecting a jury trial and not wanting to be tried repeatedly for the same crime says a lot"

"We respect the 8th Amendment, but not wanting to be tortured says a lot"

"We respect the 9th Amendment, but expecting to have the same rights as everyone else says a lot"

"We respect the 10th Amendment, but not wanting the federal government to control every aspect of your life says a lot"

Yes, I believe that most far-leftists would agree with most of the above. Particularly the 2nd, 4th and 10th.

It seems as though this keeps coming as a surprise to you.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez

The relevance of the car crash in 2009 is that she had to have her spleen removed as a result. Spleens play a role in fighting bacterial infections (they produce antibodies and monocytes), which is why most people don't automatically drop dead every time they get a cut on their hand.
Thank you for expleening.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Thank you for expleening.

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Just making a long COVID joke. Now tell me more about bowel perforations.
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Just making a long COVID joke. Now tell me more about bowel perforations.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/10...ings-chitlins/
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Just making a long COVID joke.
Yeah, I got that. It was just kind of a pathetic attempt that went off in a weird direction and deliberately misstated easily verifiable facts. Stick to criticizing trans-people / trans-advocates. You're good at those.

Long Covid is Long.






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Now tell me more about bowel perforations.
You should try to track down JasonC SBB. He has a lot to say on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
It's sad when someone makes up a false assertion, attributes it to "the man," displays it in such a way as to make it seem like yet more evidence of a conspiracy, and then smart people pick it up and re-post it without even thinking...

Disclaimer: I didn't know who Charlbi Dean was five minutes ago. She looks weird, and she's too skinny.

But it took less time than that to find reporting by both Fox News and the NY Post stating that the cause of death was capnocytophaga bacterial infection.

The relevance of the car crash in 2009 is that she had to have her spleen removed as a result. Spleens play a role in fighting bacterial infections (they produce antibodies and monocytes), which is why most people don't automatically drop dead every time they get a cut on their hand.
You know what else lowers your natural protection against bacteria? Getting the jab. Want to find it on the interwebs? Good luck. You'll need to scroll WAY down. If you think that's an accident--or not true--then it's quite likely that DJT had some hookers pee on a bed in Russia.
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Antibiotics and antibacterial products lower the ability to fight bacteria as well. Good bacteria fight with the bad bacteria in your biomes. Antibiotics and other products tend to kill different strains in varying amounts. You need to build the beneficial strains up after using those things.

Lysol was originally marketed as a feminine hygiene product.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
You know what else lowers your natural protection against bacteria? Getting the jab. Want to find it on the interwebs? Good luck. You'll need to scroll WAY down.
By "the jab," do you mean all vaccinations in general, all mRNA-delivered vaccines, or only one or more of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines specifically?


EDIT: I'm not sure which search engine you're using, but DuckDuckGo returned a hit on the search term 'the jab lowers your natural protection against bacteria' on the first page. Result #5: BOOSTER SYNDROME: The Jab Lowers White Blood Cells with Each Shot


Editorial: Why the hell did Americans start using the term "the jab" all of a sudden? That's been a part of the British lexicon for decades, to refer to all immunizations generally. I hate the way it sounds when they say it, and it sounds even dumber when Americans say it. Are we going to start referring to cookies as "biscuits" next? Or using the phrase "in hospital" instead of "in the hospital?"



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If you think that's an accident--or not true--then it's quite likely that DJT had some hookers pee on a bed in Russia.
Could you elaborate on "an accident," please? There are a few different ways I could interpret that.


And why is everyone suddenly so fascinated by whether or not the hookers hired by Trump actually urinated on him (or the bed) while he was in Moscow definitely not colluding in any way with the Russian government shortly before deciding to run for President?

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