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Old 09-16-2021, 12:25 PM
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Serious question: What do y'all propose? Now that we've established that Covid isn't fake and it is killing people, what should we as a society do about it? I haven't heard ANY plans from the Conservative side, only anti-whatever the left is doing.

What's the solution?
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What's the solution?
protect the vaccinated.

These brave hospitals are rightfully firing their employees that are not devoted to protecting the vaccinated.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...e-mandate.html

Lewis County Health System, a single hospital system in Lowville, N.Y., temporarily will close its maternity unit due to staffing challenges worsened by the number of workers unwilling to get the COVID-19 vaccine, according to NNY360.com.

Gerald Cayer, CEO of the health system, said the maternity department will be closed until they can find enough vaccinated nurses to reopen it, the publication reported Sept. 10.

The real solution is simple:

Just like the petro-dollar, the pharma dollar will require that central banks are in control with their new Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) which China has already released. Big Pharma will be the new 'oil' cartel. To introduce this everyone needs a real identity QR code and this is why the vaxpass is absolutely necessary for each person. Furthermore, the pharma industry will only accept payment in CBDC, thus creating demand for the currency just like the USD petro dollar. Boosters and tests that are required to unlock expiring passes will function just like oil that is bought in USD and then used (burned) in industry. This will be an ongoing process of world govts and people buying boosters and forced exchange into the new CBDC.

Make big pharma OPEC again!
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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
Serious question: What do y'all propose? Now that we've established that Covid isn't fake and it is killing people, what should we as a society do about it? I haven't heard ANY plans from the Conservative side, only anti-whatever the left is doing.

What's the solution?
same solution that has worked for thousands of years, get sick and get over it.
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or just follow what China did.
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I honestly dont understand why we need to do anything else at this point:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1808878.html

‘No hospitalisations and no deaths’: All three US vaccines ‘highly efficacious’, Fauci says

’Waiting for a more effective vaccine is actually the worst thing you can do to lower your risk of getting severely ill and dying of Covid-19’

God has spoken. We are fine, just get vaccinated and you're fine.


mRNA is the best technology. It's the most effective. You're safe -- that's why been used so often for the last 20 years and passed all trials in the past. trust us.

Our advice is simple: Take whatever vaccine is offered to you. Right now, all of the vaccines are the “best.” This is what we’re doing for ourselves.

The varying “effectiveness” rates miss the most important point: The vaccines were all 100% effective in the vaccine trials in stopping hospitalizations and death. Waiting for a more effective vaccine is actually the worst thing you can do to lower your risk of getting severely ill and dying of COVID-19.
100% people. there's no profit motive here, why would they lie? pfizer is here to help you. they are safe, they love you. they have always loved you. no fraud, never any fraud.
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At least the Army is gearing up to fight the good fight against the unvaccinated:

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AA fighting that good fight.

You must do your part in preventing the spread of covid-19 when going on vacation!!!

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Biden left for his DE beach house for the weekend. I cant wait for the great covid solutions he comes up with on his return!!!! At least we can feel safe with Milley in charge while the boss is away with the big protest in DC on the 18th.
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Speaking of the 18th....totally not a setup
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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
Serious question: What do y'all propose? Now that we've established that Covid isn't fake and it is killing people, what should we as a society do about it? I haven't heard ANY plans from the Conservative side, only anti-whatever the left is doing.

What's the solution?
Serious answer:

Zelenko protocol

It's never been "anti-whatever the left is doing." It's science that shows lock-downs don't work. It's science that shows--shockingly--that t-shirt masks don't work. Google "Obama party" , "Newsom French Laundry" and countless other examples to see what your liberal overlords actually think of their own mandates.

The Zelenko protocol is being used throughout the world, although it has different names. HCQ and Ivermectin are being used officially as prophylactics in countries like India, and yet bald little Brian Stelter will tell us we're all retarded for using "horse paste." 3.7 billion doses of Ivermectin taken world-wide so far, with 11 deaths (mainly attributed to infection, not a reaction to Ivermectin), and the CDC and Fauci strongly recommend against Ivermectin. That ain't science my friend.
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I'm not even close to educated enough to understand half of what the power point said, but assuming the treatment works, what do the mechanics of this look like? How would we roll it out to the population especially when so many believe that any science on it is bunk?
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Originally Posted by cordycord
FFS, I remember using the internet at IBM in the 80's in order to talk to our engineers in Boca Raton. If you really think the internet is what it is now because of government, you've got some major screws loose. All you need to do is look at how the internet reacted to Ajit Pai to realize that it's free enterprise that created the internet, NOT our tax dollars. Sheesh.

My point about SpaceX is that THEY'RE firing people into space. NASA can't even make a space suit right now, and hopefully they'll ask for HELP from Musk. BTW, I stood outside and watched a very cool rocket launch Tuesday from Vandenburg AFB. Elon Musk was launching another 40+ satellites into orbit for "the government's" internet. Sure, they helped subsidize it, but at the same time the rocket looked down at 50,000+ homeless drug addicts and mentally ill in Los Angeles. That issue is definitely government-created.
DARPA developed what became the backbone of the internet, ARAPNET, in the 1960s. This is common, readily available knowledge.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
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Zelenko protocol

It's never been "anti-whatever the left is doing." It's science that shows lock-downs don't work. It's science that shows--shockingly--that t-shirt masks don't work. Google "Obama party" , "Newsom French Laundry" and countless other examples to see what your liberal overlords actually think of their own mandates.

The Zelenko protocol is being used throughout the world, although it has different names. HCQ and Ivermectin are being used officially as prophylactics in countries like India, and yet bald little Brian Stelter will tell us we're all retarded for using "horse paste." 3.7 billion doses of Ivermectin taken world-wide so far, with 11 deaths (mainly attributed to infection, not a reaction to Ivermectin), and the CDC and Fauci strongly recommend against Ivermectin. That ain't science my friend.
This is getting sad. "ivermectin" for horses is different from the formulation (and concentration) for humans, again, common knowledge. The problem is you have high school drop outs going to the feed store to buy the formulation meant for horses.

But I realize sharing the FDA link that explains it won't do anything because "anything the the government does that I don't understand is a genocidal conspiracy."
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
This is getting sad. "ivermectin" for horses is different from the formulation (and concentration) for humans, again, common knowledge. The problem is you have high school drop outs going to the feed store to buy the formulation meant for horses.
ivermectin = ivermectin.

the only difference is the concentration level.

The amount of ivermectin horse paste you would have to ingest to overdose would be a staggering amount.
DOSAGE MATH FOR 1.87% IVERMECTIN PASTE
  1. Take your weight in pounds and covert it to kilograms. The recommended dose is 0.2mg per kg of bodyweight per multiple studies and the FLCCC.
  2. Multiply your weight in kilograms by 0.2 to get your personal recommended ivermectin dosage.
  3. There are 18.7mg of ivermectin in 1 gram of paste. Divide the number from step 2 by 18.7.
The number result of step 3 is the weight in grams of paste to consume to get your recommended ivermectin dose.
Example for a 200lb person
  1. 200 x 0.4535 = 90.7kg
  2. 90.7 x 0.2 = 18.14mg
  3. 18.14 / 18.7 = 0.97g (970mg)
Use a scale to weigh out 0.97g (970mg) of paste and consume it with a meal containing some healthy fats for best results. In this example, it is perfectly safe to round up to an even 1g of paste.


the real problem here is that the MSM vilified a perfectly safe treatment.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
DARPA developed what became the backbone of the internet, ARAPNET, in the 1960s. This is common, readily available knowledge.
Yes, and it languished until the public sector took over.
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This is getting sad. "ivermectin" for horses is different from the formulation (and concentration) for humans, again, common knowledge. The problem is you have high school drop outs going to the feed store to buy the formulation meant for horses.
NPR doesn't seem to know that. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/10334...vid-ivermectin
actually they do know it, they just deliberately trying to paint it as only a horse dewormer.

"His methods included taking ivermectin, a deworming veterinary drug that is formulated for use in cows and horses. While a version of the drug is sometimes prescribed to people for head lice or skin conditions, the formula for animal use is much more concentrated."

directly from their "article"


Also the government lies a lot, the fda is part of the government.
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I would hope a person of reasonable intelligence would be able to determine the horse paste is for horses (hence the horse paste name) and they weight a considerable amount more than a person. Do a little math after determining your own weight and presto wammo.
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I would hope a person of reasonable intelligence would be able to determine the horse paste is for horses (hence the horse paste name) and they weight a considerable amount more than a person.
Have you been to Walmart lately?
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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
I'm not even close to educated enough to understand half of what the power point said, but assuming the treatment works, what do the mechanics of this look like? How would we roll it out to the population especially when so many believe that any science on it is bunk?
The concept is that HCQ and Ivermectin make the virus "ionophoric", which means that the membrane becomes semi-permeable. Zinc is then able to pierce the membrane and kill the Covid. Zinc is a natural anti-bacterial. Spraying zinc phosphate on surfaces will kill all bacteria, for example. The Z-pack (Azithromycin) acts as an anti-inflammatory and aids the process. Dr. Didier Raoult posited this about two years ago, and the government "machine" overpowered the argument.

The reason why you see Braineack seem so over the top all the time is because:
--the government only recommends masks, hand-washing and isolation as preventative measures, not this preventative medicine.
--the government has threatened doctors and companies alike over sharing information about these drugs. DRUGS THAT CAN HELP! DRUGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN IN THE EARLY STAGES IN ORDER TO BE EFFECTIVE.
--Facebook and Youtube have banned HCQ posts and videos. It's insane. Wrongthink is banned.
--many pharmacies not only won't sell you these products, but they'll turn informant on you.
--Joe Biden is telling us that this vaccine is FREE! Anyone who believes that is in dire need of one of Braineack's horse-sized red pills
--we've seen Big Pharma get rich. We've seen the top 1/10th of 1 percent get rich, who then in turn support the government stance. We've seen a whole population bend under the big hand of government.

If you're a Central Planner type, what's not to like?
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you forgot where being put on a ventilator is literally a death sentence. it's not treating the problem -- it's slowly letting your patient drown to death and then getting paid $40K. Because you can't move oxygen through your blood if you hemoglobins are broken -- despite being fed 100% oxygen into your lungs.
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