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Here's something which isn't a distraction, and is in fact truly horrifying: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/w2zmwpzs...nTabReport.pdf

Scroll down to page 132.

The Economist/YouGov asked 1,500 Americans to respond to a set of statements, including, “The U.S. government is using the COVID-19 vaccine to microchip the population.” Five percent of all respondents said the statement was “definitely true,” and 15% said it was “probably true.”

A full twenty percent of Americans believe that the Covid vaccine is being used to implant microchips in the population.

Twenty percent.

We can dismiss literally all other arguments, about how the Covid vaccine is a corporate cash chow, how the consequences of the virus are being blown massively out of proportion, how this "pandemic" experience is a distressing example of how eager so much of the population is to submit to the whims of uninformed or poorly-informed bureaucrats (and how strongly that eagerness correlates with voting behavior), and just focus on that one number.

Twenty percent of people surveyed believe that the vaccine contains microchips.

That fact terrifies me more than any other three facts combined about this present farce.

They could be lying to fuck up the study. I lie on all gun questions. Also have you ever seen the government push something as hard as the covid vaccine that didn't turn out bad later?

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Originally Posted by stratosteve (Post 1604210)

Joe P. Im sure I'm not the only one curious about Cuba. Arent you from there or have family still there?

This wasn't directed at me, but sharing a bit about the situation in Cuba. I still have family over there in Pinar Del Rio. Took my dad a few tries to get a call out to them, but we were able to get some updates. It's bad. Military is set up all over the city. People "disappearing". Cuban gov't started cutting internet in that area, but a few people in town have satellite dishes hidden in water towers to get tv/internet and are still sending updates (videos, audio clips, whatsapp messages, etc). It's going to get worse before it gets better and i don't see any "easy" solutions.

I live down in South FL, and it's THE central story down here given the heavy Cuban ex-pat population. Not sure how much it's making it into the general news cycle but I certainly hope it is, at least for awareness.

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Originally Posted by Bajingo (Post 1604829)

They could be lying to fuck up the study. I lie on all gun questions. Also have you ever seen the government push something as hard as the covid vaccine that didn't turn out bad later?

If a questionnaire asked me if I believed the gov't was trying to microchip us, I'd DEFINITELY lie and say YES.

And yes, the last time the gov't pushed something this hard, it was universal healthcare. I watched my premiums increase by almost 150% in less than three years. We're now paying over $20k per year for a family of five for average coverage.

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Originally Posted by Bajingo (Post 1604829)

Also have you ever seen the government push something as hard as the covid vaccine that didn't turn out bad later?

Something is definitely wrong...

We know from the latest news cycle--no conspiracy theorizing, just the news--that MLB has recently cancelled games because vaccinated players from different parts of the country have tested positive for C19.

We know that at least six of the democrat house members that fled Texas have tested positive for C19 after meeting with Whitehouse staff, including the VP. I believe they were all fully vaccinated.

At a WH presser on Monday or Tuesday, Jen Psaki was asked if the Texas contingent had met with Biden and has he been tested for C19. She stated the staff, including the Prez, are tested regularly. She admitted to being tested twice a week herself.

I believed (past tense) we could assume the WH staff, including the Prez and VP, were fully vaccinated or else why would they be pushing so hard for the rest of us to get the injection. Now, I'm not so sure. If healthy, vaccinated people can still get, and possibly give, C19, why in God's name would I want to take an experimental drug.

Why does the government want us to, so strongly they're willing to go door to door???

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1604828)

That fact terrifies me more than any other three facts combined about this present farce.

Have you not met humans before? We fucking retarded.

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Originally Posted by poormxdad (Post 1604844)

Something is definitely wrong...

We know from the latest news cycle--no conspiracy theorizing, just the news--that MLB has recently cancelled games because vaccinated players from different parts of the country have tested positive for C19.

We know that at least six of the democrat house members that fled Texas have tested positive for C19 after meeting with Whitehouse staff, including the VP. I believe they were all fully vaccinated.

At a WH presser on Monday or Tuesday, Jen Psaki was asked if the Texas contingent had met with Biden and has he been tested for C19. She stated the staff, including the Prez, are tested regularly. She admitted to being tested twice a week herself.

I believed (past test) we could assume the WH staff, including the Prez and VP, were fully vaccinated or else why would they be pushing so hard for the rest of us to get the injection. Now, I'm not so sure. If healthy,vaccinated people can still get, and possibly give, C19, why in God's name would I want to take an experimental drug.

Why does the government want us to, so strongly they're willing to go door to door???

Why are they being tested regularly?

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A breakthrough case refers to anyone who is diagnosed with Covid19 after being fully vaccinated. A person is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the second dose of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine or two weeks after receiving the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine

In May, the CDC revised its system for reporting breakthrough cases, stating it would count only those cases that result in hospitalization or death. Previously, the agency had included in its breakthrough count anyone who tested positive for COVID.

Some states follow the new CDC guidance for counting breakthrough cases. Other states continue to report, at the state level, all cases where an individual tests positive, but may choose to report only hospitalizations and deaths to the CDC..

I did any of the democrats end up in the hospital? No? Oh they are using the as the weapon it is?

The CDC guidelines says no COVID testing for vaccinated people unless they are experiencing symptoms. And, no one has ever said these vaccines prevent you from testing positive:

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Fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 symptoms

Although the risk that fully vaccinated people could become infected with COVID-19 is low, any fully vaccinated person who experiences symptoms consistent with COVID-19 should isolate themselves from others, be clinically evaluated for COVID-19, and tested for SARS-CoV-2 if indicated. The symptomatic fully vaccinated person should inform their healthcare provider of their vaccination status at the time of presentation to care.

Fully vaccinated people with no COVID-like symptoms following an exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19

Most fully vaccinated people with no COVID-like symptoms do not need to quarantine, be restricted from work, or be tested following an exposure to someone with suspected or confirmed COVID-19, as their risk of infection is low.

Hell this is the guidance we are given from the CDC:

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Fully vaccinated people can:

Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel and from self-quarantine after travel
Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible

We were always told the vaccine will reduce your symptoms if you contract it, to the point of no worry, and it will reduce the transmission rate. THE END. HARD STOP.

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With all that said, I doubt the TX libs even tested positive, since Delta is the hot new thing right now as there's a push to scare more people into getting the obviously worthless vaccine and distract from the election audits.

also, the delta variant, is just the common cold*:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-...-variant-covid

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Another question focuses on how Delta affects the body. There have been reports of symptoms that are different than those associated with the original coronavirus strain, Dr Yildirim says. “It seems like cough and loss of smell are less common. And headache, sore throat, runny nose, and fever are present based on the most recent surveys in the U.K., where more than 90% of the cases are due to the Delta strain,” she says.

*except now it makes a lot of money for companies that were about the go bankrupt.

Why wear seat belts when you can still die in a crash?

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Originally Posted by Skamba (Post 1604853)

Why wear seat belts when you can still die in a crash?

why eat healthy when you can you can eat McDonalds and be a land whale.

choice = freedom

I'm not a fan of forcing people to get vaccinated but the "Why get vaccinated if some people still get sick?"-logic is obviously flawed.

this story sounds familiar:

https://justthenews.com/accountabili...medium=twitter

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Shades of Clinton: Joe Biden used private email to send government information to Hunter

Emails on laptop seized by FBI show State Department information flowing from VP to son regarding release of American prisoner.

In a communications backdoor reminiscent of Hillary Clinton's infamous private server, President Biden used a personal email account during the Obama years to send information he was getting from the State Department as vice president to his globetrotting, foreign-deal-making son Hunter Biden.

Messages, sometimes signed "Dad," from the email account robinware456@gmail.com were found on a Hunter Biden laptop seized by the FBI in December 2019 from a Delaware computer shop owner.

Some of the messages from the vice president to his son obtained by Just the News were deeply personal, others were political in nature, and still others clearly addressed business matters, often forwarding information coming from senior officials in the White House, the State Department and other government agencies.

For instance, in late November 2014 the U.S. embassy in Istanbul sent an email to the State Department that was then forwarded to senior advisers to Joe Biden, including national security expert Michael Carpenter, providing an early alert that an American named Martin O'Connor was about to be released from detention in Turkey.

"The lead attorney for Mr. O'Connor reports that the court granted the detention appeal and he expected Mr. O'Connor to be released from jail today, barring any unforeseen problems," the U.S. embassy in Instanbul wrote in an email that got forwarded to top Obama administration security and diplomacy officials, including current Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland. "Mr. O'Connor will not be allowed to leave the country until his next hearing which is set for December 11, 2014. The lawyer expressed confidence that he will be able to leave after that hearing. The attorney is handling his release arrangements, pick up and temporary housing near his law firm's office. Istanbul consular plans to speak with Mr. O'Connor after his release."

State Department officials forwarded the information to the vice president's office, where Biden aide Colin Kahl (now President Biden's Undersecretrary of Defense for Policy) sent it to Joe Biden's private email. The vice president then sent it to his son Hunter Biden with the subject line "Fwd: Mr. O'Connor Being Released from Detention today."

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Eight Hundred Billion Votes.

It's weak logic, but once you add in all the other issues with the vaccine it tips the balance Imo.

poor aussies, you gave them your guns and they put you back into the penal colonies.

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Originally Posted by Skamba (Post 1604855)

I'm not a fan of forcing people to get vaccinated but the "Why get vaccinated if some people still get sick?"-logic is obviously flawed.

It's better logic than: I got vaccinated for a virus with a 99.99% survival rate, so I could potentially travel when all this is over.

It's better logic than: We told the ~~propaganda machine~~ media to vilify Hydroxychloroquine so we could make a fuck-ton of money pushing a worthless vaccine.

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here's a brainy conspiracy theory for you: The Delta Variant is simply a made up/non-existent variant to account for the number of people dying from the dangerous vaccine.

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1604850)

Have you not met humans before? We fucking retarded.

case in point:

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