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Old 07-15-2021, 02:34 PM
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Someone must be above the target in the new cycle today, for the Propaganda Machine to put out this Russia piece...

Ohhhhh, Maricopa county audit results dropped today... How coincidental.
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You simply don't get it.
Oh no, we get it. Voter fraud is OK if the result is what you want. Which is really weird since you don't even live in this country .............
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Oh no, we get it. Voter fraud is OK if the result is what you want. Which is really weird since you don't even live in this country .............
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I'm still quite fascinated by Braineack's fascination with Maricopa County in general. I mean, if they are proven, beyond the shadow of a doubt, to have deliberately committed election fraud (which they probably did), it's not like that's going to change anything.
It changes alot in my opinion. It justifys the Jan 6 peaceful protest / capital tour. It breaks the Most secure election in history, there was no fraud narrative.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
It changes alot in my opinion. It justifys the Jan 6 peaceful protest / capital tour.
That's an interesting perspective.



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It breaks the Most secure election in history, there was no fraud narrative.
So far as I can tell, that quote originated in a statement by the Department of Homeland Security. Based upon their operational history, it's fair to presume that statement to be unfounded, and potentially wrong.

This is a generalization which one can safely make about all statements issued by DHS which are broad, sweeping, and absolute in nature.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:44 PM
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Your telling me that you don't have more sympathy for the capital tourists if their accusations are found to be plausible? They could easily be called heros if what they accuse is true.
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Your telling me that you don't have more sympathy for the capital tourists if their accusations are found to be plausible?
I'm trying to be very deliberate and careful to respond to this in a way which is unambiguous and conveys my thoughts and intentions.

I have essentially no emotional response at all for those who stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6, 2021.

This means that I harbor no ill-will towards them, nor do I have any respect or sympathy for them.

They are simply not relevant.




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They could easily be called heros if what they accuse is true.
To me, "heroes" in this context are people such as those who revolted against the British monarchy, forged an alliance with France, and successfully created the new nation in which we live today.

The folks who participated in the Jan 6 insurrection accomplished... what?

I'm being serious here. They smashed some windows, stole a podium, posted selfies on social media, and didn't actually achieve anything of strategic or tactical value.

Now, some people, such as Braineack, have argued that this is because the people involved were all some combination of false-flag operatives / government agents / otherwise not genuine. And I really have no idea whether or not that is true. Mostly because I don't care.

Because, regardless of the intentions or motivations of those involved, they didn't actually accomplish anything.
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Are you trying to tell me you don't care if your vote gets thrown in the trash because it has the wrong name on it? That our government is beholden to absolutely no one? You're alright with our government being nothing more than a gang that owns us like slaves?

Weak outlook there Joe.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
Are you trying to tell me you don't care if your vote gets thrown in the trash because it has the wrong name on it? That our government is beholden to absolutely no one? You're alright with our government being nothing more than a gang that owns us like slaves?
Not at all. These things anger me.

What I am trying to tell you, very carefully and specifically in response to your earlier question, is that the actions of the Jan 6 insurrectionists accomplished nothing, and that I have no emotional response to them.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
no, but it will set off a series of events for sure...
What events, specifically, are going to happen?

Originally Posted by Bajingo
Are you trying to tell me you don't care if your vote gets thrown in the trash because it has the wrong name on it? That our government is beholden to absolutely no one? You're alright with our government being nothing more than a gang that owns us like slaves?

Weak outlook there Joe.
He is literally, in plain language, telling you exactly his thoughts, and you keep trying to bait him because you don't like the thoughts he has presented.

Are you sure you aren't a Leftie?
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If it turns out that they were right and the election was stolen from Trump, Joe's dismissal of them proves everything else I've said. The original question.
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Your telling me that you don't have more sympathy for the capital tourists if their accusations are found to be plausible?
​​​​​​You'll notice that Joe actually didn't read or answer the question, I was asking about how he would feel about it if they turned out to be right or at the very least possibly right. You also have forgotten Joe's initial response to this, he was very unhappy with them. I'm not going to go digging for a quote but on Jan 7th Joe wasn't as indifferent to the capital tourists as he is today.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
is that the actions of the Jan 6 insurrectionists accomplished nothing, and that I have no emotional response to them.
No, they accomplished exactly what Pelosi and the entrenched agents wanted them to do...


But I agree, no one care about Joyce Betty:


Rep Joyce Beatty, chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, has her hands zip-tied behind her back while she continues to shout pro-voting rights slogans in the atrium of the Hart Senate Office Building in Capitol Hill

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Originally Posted by z31maniac
What events, specifically, are going to happen?
No idea, but the day MSNBC stops referring this as "the big lie," you should be worried [Everything he's claimed always ends up being true somehow; weird]. But there's already movement happening in other places:

























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What the audit team unveiled yesterday is pretty staggering.




this was ONE COUNTY. One.

Not to mention they uncovered:
[Fake] ballots printed on thinner than the approved "votesecurity" paper approved by the statue, with bleed through; supporting the sharpiegate claims.
168,000 ballots printed on election day
37,000 blank password login attempts from only 8 possible accounts (Login fails are logged. Logs usually have maximum size limits, so all the interesting/incriminating data in the logs would have been scrolled out of existence)
Thousands of duplicated ballots with no serial number
All passwords the same for every account
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Originally Posted by Braineack

Dear Maricopa County,

try to screw this up:

1=1
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = x
solve for x.

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(I guess this proves they were using weighted voting all along)


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I LOVE loopholes.






Congress aint making no law; their bankrolls are.
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There is no fraud because, we didnt find any fraud, because we never looked for fraud:

June 9, 2021

Dear President Trump,

It was my great honor to serve as U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania
in your Administration. You asked me to prioritize public safety, and that is exactly what
I did. While Larry Krasner, the radical leftist Philadelphia District Attorney, was letting
violent criminals go and refusing to prosecute rioters, looters, and arsonists, our Office was
putting them in jail and standing up for law-abiding citizens.
In the spring of 2020, I prosecuted and won an election fraud case against a Judge of
Elections in South Philadelphia who was stuffing the ballot box. I also charged the
political consultant (a former Democratic Congressman) who was paying bribes to the
Judge to stuff the ballot box.
President Trump, you were right to be upset about the way the Democrats ran the 2020
election in Pennsylvania – it was a partisan disgrace. The Governor, the Secretary of the
Commonwealth, and the partisan State Supreme Court made up their own rules and did not
follow the law. Even worse, the State Attorney General, Josh Shapiro – the very person
responsible for the enforcement of state election law – declared days before Election Day
that you could not win the election. It would be hard to imagine a more irresponsible
statement by a law enforcement officer, especially during a hotly contested election.
In light of such statements, it is hardly surprising that many Pennsylvanians lack faith
in our state’s election results.
On Election Day and afterwards, our Office received various allegations of voter fraud
and election irregularities. As part of my responsibilities as U.S. Attorney, I wanted to
be transparent with the public and, of course, investigate fully any allegations. Attorney
General Barr, however, instructed me not to make any public statements or put out any
press releases regarding possible election irregularities. I was also given a directive to pass
along serious allegations to the State Attorney General for investigation – the same State
Attorney General who had already declared that you could not win.


I disagreed with that decision, but those were my orders. As a Marine infantry officer,
I was trained to follow the chain of command and to respect the orders of my superiors,
even when I disagree with them.
Mr. President, public service is in my blood, and I would like to serve the people of
Pennsylvania and restore conservative leadership to our state. I will be the Republican
candidate for Governor with the best chance to win the general election in November
2022. Based on my background and experience, I am uniquely positioned to defeat
Mr. Shapiro (the likely Democratic candidate) and would welcome the chance to discuss
this with you in person. I would be honored to have your support.
Once elected Governor, one of my first priorities would be to modernize Pennsylvania’s
election process and protect the right of all Pennsylvania citizens to cast a legitimate vote.
That means no ballot harvesting, undated ballots, unsigned ballots, ballots collected
after Election Day (other than legitimate military and overseas absentee ballots), obstacles
to poll watchers observing the counting of ballots, different rules in different counties,
and, of course, no ballot stuffing of the kind that I previously prosecuted. It also means
responsible voter ID legislation. Ensuring people’s confidence in elections should be
a nonpartisan issue. In short, we have a responsibility to make it easy to vote, but hard –
if not impossible – to cheat. That is how we respect the will of the people – and how
the best and most deserving candidates win.
Thank you for your consideration, and I hope to see you soon.

Very respectfully,
William M. McSwain
Former United States Attorney, Eastern District of PA, 2018-2021
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#neverforget

The WP really ran this opinion piece after the election. This is like the police saying: we investigated ourselves...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...n-trustworthy/



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a 5MB cap on your log file should be a felony.

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Originally Posted by Bajingo
​​​​​​You'll notice that Joe actually didn't read or answer the question, I was asking about how he would feel about it if they turned out to be right or at the very least possibly right.
I'm struggling to comprehend what you're saying here.

I believe that this was the "original question" which you are referring to:

Originally Posted by Bajingo
Your telling me that you don't have more sympathy for the capital tourists if their accusations are found to be plausible?
I replied:

Originally Posted by Joe Perez
I'm trying to be very deliberate and careful to respond to this in a way which is unambiguous and conveys my thoughts and intentions.

I have essentially no emotional response at all for those who stormed the US Capitol on Jan 6, 2021.

This means that I harbor no ill-will towards them, nor do I have any respect or sympathy for them.

They are simply not relevant.
Let me spell this out in bullet-point form for you:

1: I presently have no emotional response to the Jan 6 Capitol protestors.

2: Sympathy is an emotion.

3: This is because their actions were pathetic and completely ineffective.

4: Thus, my outlook towards them is unlikely to change as information which reinforces their claims, which we already know to be largely true, comes to light.
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