Current Events, News, Politics Keep the politics here.

The Current Events, News, and Politics Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-17-2020, 11:34 PM
  #20001  
I identify as a bear.
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,206
Total Cats: 6,707
Default

Originally Posted by Ted75zcar
I don't get the whole mail-in ballot topic at all. I think I have been voting by mail for close to 20 years now. Here in Colorado, something like 99% of the ballots cast are through the mail. When I found out the rest of the country wasn't doing this, I was like WTF?
Those at the far-fringes of the Red and Blue teams enjoy exploiting mail-in balloting as a surrogate boogey man for rationalizing / justifying their fears as to why the "other team" is obviously engaged in a massive (and oddly successful*) conspiracy to rig the election.

* = Odd, considering the fact that no coalition involving county, state and federal government agencies acting in coordination has ever succeeded at doing anything correctly.
Joe Perez is online now  
Old 11-17-2020, 11:55 PM
  #20002  
Senior Member
 
Roda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 1,252
Total Cats: 316
Default

Originally Posted by Ted75zcar
I don't get the whole mail-in ballot topic at all. I think I have been voting by mail for close to 20 years now. Here in Colorado, something like 99% of the ballots cast are through the mail. When I found out the rest of the country wasn't doing this, I was like WTF?
There is a difference between a registered voter requesting an early/absentee ballot (which I've also done for years here in AZ), and ballots being mailed out to every listed voter without such a request. The latter is what is being challenged, because that's something that wasn't done prior to this election cycle, and in some cases the change was apparently made without the proper legislative action in some states.

Mailing ballots to a list of voters without verifying changes of address, status, or even if they're still alive is rife with opportunity for fraud.
Roda is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 12:44 AM
  #20003  
I identify as a bear.
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,206
Total Cats: 6,707
Default

Originally Posted by Roda
... and ballots being mailed out to every listed voter without such a request.
Is someone alleging that this occurred? If so, source*?

* = reliable source, not a blag post on alt-extreme-[party-which-i-agree-with].org.
Joe Perez is online now  
Old 11-18-2020, 01:10 AM
  #20004  
Senior Member
 
Roda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 1,252
Total Cats: 316
Default

Voting by mail - all 50 states

I didn't read all 50, but found about 5 states mailing ballots to all registered voters by the time I got to 'New Jersey'.
Roda is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 05:55 AM
  #20005  
Senior Member
 
Gee Emm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Canberra, sort of
Posts: 1,169
Total Cats: 192
Default

I would have thought that the verification process would have been the same, whether by request, or indiscriminate mailout?
Gee Emm is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 08:49 AM
  #20006  
AFM Crusader
iTrader: (19)
 
olderguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wayne, NJ
Posts: 4,675
Total Cats: 340
Default

Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Is someone alleging that this occurred? If so, source*?

* = reliable source, not a blag post on alt-extreme-[party-which-i-agree-with].org.
Happened in NJ and was all screwed up.
olderguy is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 10:28 AM
  #20007  
Senior Member
 
Roda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 1,252
Total Cats: 316
Default

Originally Posted by Gee Emm
I would have thought that the verification process would have been the same, whether by request, or indiscriminate mailout?
A number of states were changing the verification rules at the last minute to make it easier to get a ballot through, ie., no signature verification. Thus the court challenges.

While this is a real problem, IMHO the software issues with the electronic machines is far more troubling.
Roda is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 01:00 PM
  #20008  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

Originally Posted by Roda
A number of states were changing the verification rules at the last minute to make it easier to get a ballot through, ie., no signature verification. Thus the court challenges.
https://www.kcra.com/article/judge-n...date/34675185#

Judge: Newsom overstepped authority with mail-in ballots mandate


How about simply blatant cheating:



They never expected such a red-wave. But it was the red-wave and pause that gave them all away...

Kind of looks odd/suspicious when Trump/Rs do so well everywhere, expect just the states that couldn't count votes correctly (using Dominion) and had to wait to see how many they needed to create/add/fake in order to push their guy over the edge late at night [literally look at the raw data from every non-Dominion state].

Last edited by Braineack; 11-18-2020 at 01:19 PM.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 01:19 PM
  #20009  
I identify as a bear.
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,206
Total Cats: 6,707
Default

From that article:

In the ruling Friday, Judge Sarah Heckman said Newsom does not have the authority to amend or change existing law — even during a public emergency.

It's almost as though Judge Heckman believes that the Constitution and the Laws of the State of California apply to the highest elected official in California.

Silly woman. How on earth are tyrants expected to come to power if elected officials are subject to the rule of law?
Joe Perez is online now  
Old 11-18-2020, 01:21 PM
  #20010  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

Doesn't matter, she ruled AFTER the election.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 02:05 PM
  #20011  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

THEY ARE FINDING OUT ABOUT THE GREATEST FRAUD IN HISTORY, QUICK DIVERT!!!!

Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 02:16 PM
  #20012  
I identify as a bear.
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,206
Total Cats: 6,707
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
Doesn't matter, she ruled AFTER the election.
Do you have any strongly-held opinions about D.B. Cooper, or the town of Bielefeld, Germany?
Joe Perez is online now  
Old 11-18-2020, 02:36 PM
  #20013  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

I'm not that old.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 02:57 PM
  #20014  
I identify as a bear.
iTrader: (8)
 
Joe Perez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
Posts: 33,206
Total Cats: 6,707
Default

How about Tommy Wiseau?
Joe Perez is online now  
Old 11-18-2020, 03:08 PM
  #20015  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

You mean the world's greatest actor?
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 03:30 PM
  #20016  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

oof.

Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 03:31 PM
  #20017  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

oof.

Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 03:33 PM
  #20018  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

baseless oof.

Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 03:35 PM
  #20019  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

proven false oof.



NEED THE MARKERS on D-Day.
Braineack is offline  
Old 11-18-2020, 04:06 PM
  #20020  
Boost Czar
Thread Starter
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,607
Total Cats: 4,102
Default

what's the problem oof

Braineack is offline  


Quick Reply: The Current Events, News, and Politics Thread



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 AM.