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Old 07-31-2016 | 02:25 AM
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This car is pretty special.

If I list all the things I've done or had done to this car, people would flag it as bogus because it sounds made up. It's a fully functioning frankenstein, that will thrill the crap out of any auto enthusiast.

It is a 1993 Mazda Miata, black w/ a tan soft top w/ glass window. It has a 2.0 Liter Turbo Nissan SR20det engine from a Nissan Sylvia (Japanese market equivalent of the 240sx). But the engine was recently rebuilt with forged internals (pistons, rods, aftermarket cams, GT2871rs turbo, larger injectors, full aftermarket VEMS ecu).. Completely custom work of art header and downpipe, followed by a full 3" stainless exhaust with 3" cat and 3" muffler. The car has Flyin Miata's Afco suspension... Google it, it's the best I could find! This is complemented with a full set of polyurethane suspension bushings. It also has Flyin Miata's Wilwood big brake kit front and rear, with e-brake to assure street legality. It has a custom professionally fabricated weld-in 4 point roll bar, prepared with eventually completing a roll cage in mind. The seats are Sparco's, it has a Momo adapter. The car has the Nissan Sylvia's transmission too, and the differential from an 88 RX7 turbo (capable of a great deal of power). There is an aftermarket JWT clutch kit, complete with lightened flywheel. The infrastructure to support these "new organs" was carefully thought out, and fabricated as a joint effort between a talented machinist friend and a very trusted local custom car fabrication shop called Kale's Customs. The car was dyno'd at ~320whp and similar torque after taking advantage of the bigger turbo, injectors, exhaust, & custom ecu. I have also done extensive work to improve the cooling system. It has a HUGE Springfield Dyno radiator, ducting, and hood vents to promote flow through it. There is also a pretty elaborate heat shield constructed around the turbo to shield the brake fluid, air filter, and power steering fluid from the otherwise inevitable heat the header and turbo generate in a turbo car... --with the goal of it being able to withstand lap after lap as a track car. It handles amazing with 225x50R15 track tires, and will spin relentlessly with any street tire. I use the DOT Toyo Proxes RA1's on the street, (basically barely street legal slicks), ... and those same tires are ideal for track use.

It's sorta silly for me to consider selling this, (having roughly 4x this "invested" in it)... but I have another project I'd like to get started with , several other cars, and something has to give to make it work financially.

If anyone pays this much for this car, they would be getting a heck of a deal. The car is registered, inspected, and insured. I don't drive it as much as it deserves, but it is certainly worthy of street and track use, today. The only thing someone might consider doing (first, though for me it is always last), would be to maybe paint it the color of their choice, dolling it up to their desired appearance. All the time I've had it as a project car, my goals were to make fast (at braking, turning in, around corners, and accelerating), then maybe make it prettier. That said, it's not bad looking, just not a show car. It has scuffs here & there from autocrossing, and/or walking around it with tools since 2007 or so... when I started this project... but NO RUST what-so-ever. I bought it from Florida and it has not seen a winter (or even fall) since I obtained it.

I have left a LOT of details out here, (believe it or not). Please let me know if you're interested, and I'll forward to you a spreadsheet I've kept on the car that will bedazzle your desire for detail.

If you've read this far, and you wish you could buy just the engine, turbo, transmission, ECU, and professionally prepared engine harness... I could also be into that, as the project I aspire to would take handsome advantage of all of the remaining parts, that I happen to cherish.

Asking $12,000 or b.o.

Sr20det by Jeff Collins | Photobucket

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...price?
Price added, thanks for the heads up that I had forgotten to include that.
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Just curious, do you have an actual Vermont Title for it now by chance or they still not issue titles for cars 15 years and older? <-- which makes it interesting to title in other states with no title.
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Cool miata, build looks well done. but i find it hard to believe you have $48,000 into this.
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Just curious, do you have an actual Vermont Title for it now by chance or they still not issue titles for cars 15 years and older? <-- which makes it interesting to title in other states with no title.
Thanks for this very valid question. Answer: You guessed it.

Vermont doesn't issue titles for cars older than 15 years, just as you said. My understanding, (though it is just that, not from experience since I've only ever registered cars in VT), is that other states allow you to register the car, (and then issue you a title), if you provide a bill of sale from the VT owner, along with a signed over registration (all of our registration certificates have a form printed on the back of them to sign the car over to a new owner).

But I'd certainly inquire w/ your state's DMV rather than to take my word for it.
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^ My friend had to do it before here in Illiinois a few years ago (It was a painful long process because no one in the DMV knew how to handle it, and didn't like the condition of the Bill of Sale or the registration.. not sure why but he had to go back to the seller for more documentation before finally being allowed to register -- a signed affidavit and other stuff IIRC).

Its so weird to me how Vermont won't issue titles when all other states require it.


So folks, if you are serious enough, make sure all your ducks are in a row with being able to title it in your state without a title (I'm guessing each state handles it differently)

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Originally Posted by borka
Cool miata, build looks well done. but i find it hard to believe you have $48,000 into this.
I understand. I have a hard time believing it myself. But there is a lot of high quality R&D by some pretty expensive, very talented custom fabricators, a couple engine rebuilds, excellent suspension, brakes, some things had to be done twice... I'm not saying it's all still in there (vast majority is)... but in total, the spreadsheet I keep indicates ~$45,000.

The sum of the parts one could easily shuck from this car are worth well more than the asking price. If this car doesn't sell to an elated owner within a month or two, my thought is to take it off the market, and place an order for an exocet shell... I'll probably sell the Nissan stuff to the 240sx crowd, and do a different drivetrain for the exo, but who knows, this would certainly make for a pretty unique-o-cet.

I know it won't convey well here formatting wise, but I'm pasting the contents of a detailed spreadsheet I've kept on this car anyway; to give anyone genuinely interested an idea of where that much money can go if you're not careful.

I'm certainly not wealthy, but this was spread out over several years, and I think about cars way too much/often, and I'm quite rarely careful.


Original Purchase $10,500.00



Engine

Supposed 35-40K mile 1993 SR20DET redtop from JDM Sylvia $0.00 *Came with car

Supposed 35-40K mile 1993 transmission from JDM Sylvia $0.00 *Came with car

Jim Wolf Technologies S3 Cams $584.87 Jim Wolf Technologies

Polish Crankshaft, Rebore block to 86.5mm, Clean motor and parts, disassemble block internals
$514.00 RPM racing engines
Cosworth 1.1mm metal head gasket $163.95 frsport.com

Manley H-Beam Rods $350.00 Mazworx.com

ACL Race Rod Bearings (17mm) $53.30 Mazworx.com

ACL Race Main Bearings $57.57 Mazworx.com

Thrust washers and gaskets ?.?? frsport.com

Engine Machining by RPM for rebuild $589.00 RPM racing engines Nov-11

ACL Race main bearings $90.00 realstreetperformance.com

ACL Race Rod Bearings (17mm) $54.90 Race - Mart



Differential (LSD)

Rx7 turbo II axles and clutch type LSD $400.00 Purchased from Paul Wilson's son's Rx7 pile

New Miata Rear hubs, machined by Gordon Adams to accommodate beefy Rx7 Turbo axles $0.00 *See Gordon Adams in fabrication section



Gauges

VEMS wideband A/F and EGT combo gauge $350.00

Frequency switch from Autospeed (for home-made shift light) $66.50

Shift light raw materials (leds and door chime) $19.94

Resistor to allow Nissan ECU to run Miata tachometer $2.79

Autometer volt meter (incorporated into factory cluster). $22.27

Automeeter Boost gauge $57.00

Autometer electric speedometer/odometer $202.90

Exaust 02 sensor bung for wideband 02 sensor. $0.00 * See Heads Up 1

Dual Pillar gauge pod (amputated to single when cage went in). $0.00 * See Moss Motors Receipt 1

Autometer Oil temperature gauge $50.45







Autometer electic fuel gauge $110.00 eBay





Interior/Safety

Kirk Bolt in Roll cage $445.00

Steel to modify Kirk Roll cage, to allow it to work w/ top latches $245.00

Momo Pedal covers $41.94

Package shelf covers, trunk fuel cover, a-pillar trim $93.93

Sparco Speed seats with Jacquard fabric (best street/track/safety compromise after gratuitious
research). $791.10
Convertible top from 99-05 (tan w/ glass window) $378.00

BSCI dense SFI rollbar padding (6') $30.00

Soft rollbar padding (6') from AC Performance $43.14

G-Force 6pt Camlock harnesses $279.97

Heavy duty zip ties for rollbar padding $11.73

Am/Fm CD player (Kenwood) $256.97

Fire extinguisher & bracket $48.00



Wiring

Relays for cooling fans and fuel pump circuit $10.00

electrical connectors $11.26

Radio Antenna wire $6.41

Painless connectors, wire, connectors, solder $116.19

Coolant temperature sensor/fan switch $21.44

Honda S2000 start switch $42.78 Not currently active.

Misc electrical connectors & wire $14.68

Fuel Pump and cooling fan switches with LED's $23.42

Misc electrical connectors & wire $80.70

Wire and Relays for cooling fan circuit $37.95

Taylor wire looms (purple) and zip ties (red) $100.80





Turbo and fuel delivery System

Walbro 250lph fuel pump (in tank) $0.00 *Came with car

Fuel injection clamps $4.17

New Fuel Injector cushion rings (4) $28.08 frsport.com

New Fuel Lines (covered in braided stainless steel) $192.80

T28 install kit (studs, oil feed kit, gaskets) $199.99

Frsport stainless turbo lines with restrictor (S13 SR) $160.00

Miscellaneous turbo oil line fittings $14.00 ATP Turbo

Reclocked inlet/outlet adapters for T28 turbos $110.00

Greddy E-01 boost controller and display unit with remote for adjustments $0.00 *Came with car

HKS SSQV BOV with recirculation adapter, properly plumbed $0.00 *Came with car

Custom one-off intercooler piping (powdercoated silver) $0.00 *Came with car

HUGE Greddy front mount bar & plate intercooler $0.00 *Came with car

Full turbo back 3" stainless exaust $0.00 *See Gordon Adams in fabrication section

GT2871R Garrett turbo with GT28R compressor housing, (.64 A/R turbine housing) $1,200.00 frsport.com

HKS SSQV BOV Recirc fitting $18.00

VEMS ECU $813.00

Custom Wiring Harness $600.00

Fuel Injection adapters $60.00

Fuel Rail $80.00

Siemens Deka 870cc/min shorty injectors $340.00

Fuse Holder $24.00

ECU harness connectors (24+12+8+25+8) $77.00

Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM) $125.00

Fuel Line flare adapters (8+24+20+30+19) $101.00

Round VEMS display only gauge $190.00

Boost Control Solenoid $54.00

Intake air temp sensor $25.00

USB to RS232 adapter $14.00

Huge aftermarket Greddy Intake manifold, powdercoated same color as valve cover $0.00 *Came with car

Custom exhaust manifold and downpipe Kale's Custom



All new exhaust manifold studs and nuts $72.67 frsport.com

Apexi Air filter, intake, universal 80mm adapter, and 2.5" to 3.5" reducer $108.70 frsport.com



Cooling/heat management

Koyo Jumbo aluminum radiator $0.00 * Came with car

Dual high flow aftermarket cooling fans with full control circuitry $0.00 * Came with car, circuitry by Jeff

Fan mounting kit $9.90 Summit

Intercooler Intake manifold pipe wrap kit $55.83

Round Revotec Intake ducts (for oil cooler and air intake) $41.77

Fasteners for Oil cooler ducts $11.36

Turbo exit 90degree silicone elbow $42.10

Raw aluminum used to fabricate over radiator cowl duct $9.99

Raw plastic for radiator side ducting $16.05

Mesh for duct protection $13.46

AN fitting to finish oil filter relocation kit $37.20

NEW Oil Cooler and oil filter relocation kit $347.94

Custom extra grille above front bumper $0.00 * See Heads Up 1

NEW Mazda OEM motor undertray (modified to accommodate IC lines $37.60

NEW Nismo 149 degree thermostat $46.28

Nismo Radiator cap (18.2lb) $32.85

Circuit sports thermo isolator intake spacer gasket $29.95

JGY (Unorthodox-reseller) underdrive pulley $139.95 Underdrives water pump to prevent cavitation at high rpm's

Lightweight aluminum water pump and alternator pulleys $0.00 * Came with car

NEW Belts to accommodate underdrive pulley $37.88

Hood Louvers $0.00 * See Heads Up 1.

Swain coating of exaust manifold, turbo exaust housing, and downpipe $445.18



General Maintenance and Upgrades

Starter rebuild $160.50 Auto Electric Jan-12

Braille B3121 No-Weight Extreme Use Battery $205.64

Duralast Gold Battery $112.01 Autozone

Windshield wipers $35.98

Custom 4 wheel street/track compromise alignment $0.00 * See Heads Up 1

Brake fluid replaced with DOT4 $0.00 * See Heads Up 1

Hella Clear Vision Headlights $0.00 * See Moss Motors Receipt 1

Woodstove paint (black metallic) for brake calipers $40.66

NEW NGK (6097) Spark Plugs $14.82

Miscellaneous vacume hoses (replaced ALL). $13.53

First Vermont Inspection $38.10 Happiest day of my life.

Brake pad attachment parts $20.75

Redline oil for differential $16.20

Wire wrap and Aluminum Cat Converter gaskets $32.00

NEW coil packs $270.05

NEW vacume lines for boost circuit $24.19

Misc Paint, brake fluid $32.83

Valve seals and full "engine gasket kit" $264.99

Cosworth 1.1mm Metal Head Gasket $137.95 frsport.com

NEW water pump $75.90

NEW Oil pump $147.00

ARP head stud kit $125.00

Primer and paint for engine bay refresh $29.10

NEW bulbs for marker lights $4.17

NEW BOOTS for power steering rack (left and right) $0.00 * See Mazda Motorsports Receipt 1

NEW Lower Front Ball Joints (left and right) $0.00 * See Mazda Motorsports Receipt 1

NEW Upper Front Ball Joint (boots - left and right) $0.00 * See Mazda Motorsports Receipt 1

Labor for valve seals, head gasket, flywheel and chain tensioner install, general engine inspection $600.00 RPM in Georgia VT

NEW Mazda competition motormounts (30% stiffer) $61.40 MazdaMotorsports

Gordon Adams clean up stainless welds on manifold and downpipe before swain coating. $40.00

New Parking lights relay $17.13 MazdaMotorsports

A&N fittings for brakes (27.52 + 13.93 + 33.84) $75.29 Race Part Solutions

Titanium Exhaust Wrap with LR Technology (DEI) $99.44 Summit 5/4/2014

Stainless locking ties for header wrap $12.97 Summit 5/4/2014

Turbo blanket (Heatshield Lava Turbo Heat shields) $185.97 Summit 5/4/2014

Summit Racing hood liner heat barrier (-30-400 degree protection) $51.97 Summit 5/4/2014

2Gauge positive lead to starter $175.39 AutoElectric (Blane is enthusiastic about electrical problems!) 7/3/2014

New Reverse light switch for transmission $43.24 frsport.com 7/16/2014

Disassemble door window mechanisms and lube with Honda Silicon Grease (08798-9013) $16.39 Amazon 7/21/2014

New Reserse sensor in Transmission $43.24 frsport.com

New heavy duty starter relay under hood $34.24 AutoElectric (Blane is enthusiastic about electrical problems!) 7/29/2014

New Battery $130.99 Autozone 5/1/2016



Clutch

Nismo Clutch Slave Cylinder $190.00

New Mazda clutch master cylinder $49.95

Stainless steel clutch line $19.95

JWT aluminum flywheel (11 lbs) $425.00

1200KG clutch kit (same as 350z turbos use) $485.00



Suspension/Brakes

Energy Suspension Poly-Urethane bushing kit $258.00 avancedautosport 1/1/2014

Long wheelstuds and open ended lugnuts $128.00

upgrade to Miata 1.8 calipers and rotors (front and rear). $300.00 Since discarded!


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Continued.... (post said it was too much to paste):

Hawk Black brake pads Since discarded w/ 1.8 calipers <BR>
Stainless brake lines (red) (all four corners). $121.95 <BR>
New Mazda OEM Brake Master Cylinder Forgot price. <BR>
Flyin Miata big brake kit (Wilwood mania 6 piston front, 4 piston rear w/ ebrake) $1,824.00 <BR>
The pads that came in the front were BP--10's, rear came with Polymatrix E (street as heck). <BR>
One track day w/ the rears and they squeel at the lightest touch now, ordered BP-10's for the rear $79.99 7/25/2016 Flyin Miata<BR>
To order front brake pads: "Wilwood footprint #7112" - calipers are Dynalite 4-piston <BR>
To order rear brake pads: "Wilwood footprint #7912" - calipers are Powerlite <BR>
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Custom fabrication <BR>
Custom motor mounts to accommodate SR20det $0.00 * Came with car <BR>
Raw aluminum rod for hood prop and "hot side hot, cool side cool" underhood wall. $26.75 <BR>
Waterjet Stainless Header Flange from Rennline $222.07 <BR>
3" exhaust ball joint (stainless steel) $97.88 www.customaircraft.com <BR>
3" Exaust flanges $52.00 Road Race Engineering <BR>
Gordon Adams custom driveshaft $547.00 Rear half RX7 Turbo II, Front half Sylvia <BR>
Custom Driveshaft from GA to get me home (discarded due to diff swap) $650.00 Ultimately became donor to current drive shaft. <BR>
Misc Nuts/Bolts $1.08 <BR>
Gordon Adams Custom diff/trans support infrastructure and custom 3" exaust weaving through it. $2,000.00 <BR>
Magnahelic gauge $60.35 <BR>
Misc hardware (hose for magnahelic gauge, glue, epoxy) $27.33 <BR>
Misc Aluminum hardware (for under hood wall), and seal for top of that wall $48.55 <BR>
Grate for behind oil cooler $7.94 <BR>
Random technology 3" high flow cat $100.00 Purchased from Paul Wilson's son's Rx7 pile (now hollowed). <BR>
Full Turbo Back 3" exaust $0.00 Portions came w/ car, majority covered under from Gordon Adams receipt. <BR>
Fabrication to allow both temp sensors to be near manifold (cool side) + Motul trans fluid $134.33 KalesCustom <BR>
Exhaust re-fab, with modification to rear diff mount, new (quieter) muffler, flanges, Driveshaft shortening to accommodate new poly diff bushing $1,830.00 KalesCustom 6/1/2014<BR>
Labor for replacing all poly-bushings, new brake lines, e-brake cables, Afco suspension and Wilwood big brake kit, extended wheel studs, and new sway bar mounts $2,164.00 KalesCustom <BR>6/1/2014
New Welded in Roll bar $1,186.10 KalesCustom 6/1/2014<BR>
Machining to use larger bolts and nord-lock washers for Turbo -> Manifold interface (prevent loosening up) $541.00 VEMS 7/8/2015 <BR>
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Body/stiffening/suspension <BR>
Cobalt heim jointed Adjustable sway bar end links (both sides, front & rear) $201.35 Moss Motors <BR>
Hard-Dog splitter $0.00 See Moss Motors Receipt 1. <BR>
Hardware for Hard-Dog splitter $13.95 <BR>
Larger sway bars $0.00 * Came with car <BR>
Tokiko Illumina adjustable shocks and springs. $0.00 * Came with <BR>car
ECU cover plate, fuel cover plates, a pillar trip driver's side $93.93 <BR>
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Tuning $300.00 Dyno time (Moon Performance, Lake Placid) <BR>
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Grouped Receipts <BR>
Heads Up Receipt 1 $3,190.79 * This is why I try to do as much as I can myself. <BR>
Moss Motors Receipt 1 $181.60 <BR>
Mazda Motorsports Receipt 1 $173.46 <BR>
TOTAL: <BR>
$44,458.88 <BR>
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Originally Posted by borka
Cool miata, build looks well done. but i find it hard to believe you have $48,000 into this.
I find it hard to believe you don't believe there could be that much into it.
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This car is just an absurd deal. Little polishing around the rough edges to be done as far as aesthetics, but wow. Great work on this build OP. Hope it goes to a good owner.
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Original Poster here....

Thanks Astral! Thanks for your inquiry Bleuet!

I had plans for the aesthetics of the car, (I might still act on, who knows). But aesthetics always take a backseat with me over mechanical well being. Since there's no backseat in this car, ... no place for the aesthetics. Someone (completely unrelated to its potential sale) came over the other day and said it was one of the nicest looking Miatas they'd seen. I most certainly disagree, and this person may have only ever seen just a couple of Miatas, but yeah, that's something. I think it looks ok. I regret the presence of the louvers on the hood, as I truly appreciate a good sleeper, (I have 2 others in the quiver at the moment), ... but they were all part of the comprehensive strategy to achieve effective cooling for rigorous use.

Good news: I looked through the 3+ inch thick pile of receipts I have for the car, and I found the VT title! I purchased this car in 2006, so it was < 15 years old when I got it! So no problem if you're out of state.

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Seriously such a solid deal.

Wish I needed this, ha. Would buy.
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Old 08-04-2016 | 09:51 PM
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Seriously such a solid deal.

Wish I needed this, ha. Would buy.
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Dude. It's in the thread title, and written just below his name on every post . Essex junction, VT.
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If only you could hold this for 2 months for me. I need time for my suv to sell and the extra I need to save.
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If only you could hold this for 2 months for me. I need time for my suv to sell and the extra I need to save.
What if I said I'd take $10k for it instead of $12k?

--Anyone? It took a lot of time/$/doing to get this thing intact.

Turning it into an Exocet would be a very rewarding end game... but I envision a different drive-train in that car, and the part where I finish dismantling this well sorted Miata and end up throwing away the 3" stainless exhaust trained to weave through the very cleverly devised rear sub-frame which supports the RX7 turbo diff, and the transmission support infrastructure, would just make for a sad day.

If anyone has ever thought about doing this swap, don't.

But if someone already undertook the whole physical/financial burden, and then offers to pass it on for less than quarters on the dolllar... well that could be a different story. Hi.

I tried to edit the original post to update the price, but there's simply no edit button now. I guess it erodes off w/ time?
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Originally Posted by jcollins914
I tried to edit the original post to update the price, but there's simply no edit button now. I guess it erodes off w/ time?
Correct, edit buttons are made of water-soluble cornstarch.
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