Tanro's Diddlyicous MSM Log
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So I grabbed this MSM. I will be clear up front, I was just looking for another miata. I was addicted to boost for years with DSMs, so I know about the turbocharging side of FI. But I had sworn them off because DSMs are either boring, or money pits. No middle ground. So I shopped on craigslist for a while.
Was gonna grab a 10th AE with a salvage title needing an engine. But, Alabama is a pita to get a rebuilt title unless you were the owner when it was salvaged.
Then I found a running 10th ae with bolt-ons. But it was a pile crap.
So I found this MSM, did some researches on what made them different. Decided worse comes to worse, I can drive it till the 220k FI engine pops, and then stick a 1.8 VVT engine in it.
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Go and check it out. Body is 9/10. Interior is 8/10. Engine is clean enough to eat off of. And it has good compression, drives good, pulls hard (then harder past 5k).
I decided to pull the trigger. Guys pops on 4.5k. Damn I should have lowballed him more.. He was asking 5k.
Polished up driver's headlight. Passenger is new.
Before :
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Toothpaste step
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Done
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New Plugs. NGK Iridiums
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De-Chroming it.
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Did the antenna bezel and deck plates too... I'm not a fan of shiny metal on my sports cars. Muscle Cars, trucks, and old sedans sure...
Was gonna grab a 10th AE with a salvage title needing an engine. But, Alabama is a pita to get a rebuilt title unless you were the owner when it was salvaged.
Then I found a running 10th ae with bolt-ons. But it was a pile crap.
So I found this MSM, did some researches on what made them different. Decided worse comes to worse, I can drive it till the 220k FI engine pops, and then stick a 1.8 VVT engine in it.
![](https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10904627_828849733843223_112653665770621765_o.jpg)
Go and check it out. Body is 9/10. Interior is 8/10. Engine is clean enough to eat off of. And it has good compression, drives good, pulls hard (then harder past 5k).
I decided to pull the trigger. Guys pops on 4.5k. Damn I should have lowballed him more.. He was asking 5k.
Polished up driver's headlight. Passenger is new.
Before :
![](https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10945805_828849647176565_7214299266236082418_o.jpg)
Toothpaste step
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Done
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New Plugs. NGK Iridiums
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De-Chroming it.
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Did the antenna bezel and deck plates too... I'm not a fan of shiny metal on my sports cars. Muscle Cars, trucks, and old sedans sure...
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This is why/how I stole the rx8
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Massive fuckton of hail damage... Got cold before I could finish body work. Still needs body work. But now also needs a clutch, and probably ign coils. Rotary is about shot.
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Car had some gangsta wheels on it, so I stuck my set of evo viii track wheels on it.
Payed a transmission shop to put a new 700r4 in my truck, 4k miles on it, and it won't shift out of 2nd, and slips like hell.
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Massive fuckton of hail damage... Got cold before I could finish body work. Still needs body work. But now also needs a clutch, and probably ign coils. Rotary is about shot.
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Car had some gangsta wheels on it, so I stuck my set of evo viii track wheels on it.
Payed a transmission shop to put a new 700r4 in my truck, 4k miles on it, and it won't shift out of 2nd, and slips like hell.
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Interior is clean, I can do body work. I pulled as much as I could and did a light body fill.
I payed 2250 for the rx8. I offered that, but he wouldn't take it. Called me a month later, and said to come get it for 2250. Sold the gangsta wheels, and I figure if I can get 2400 for it with evo rims I will be breaking even pretty much.
I payed 2250 for the rx8. I offered that, but he wouldn't take it. Called me a month later, and said to come get it for 2250. Sold the gangsta wheels, and I figure if I can get 2400 for it with evo rims I will be breaking even pretty much.
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Currently I plan to swap the gears for 3.636 rear, and then Cloth top, then a tuning device.
Either MS PnP, Hydra, or DSM link. Not sure I want to figure out how to run Link on the MSM engine.
So used to a 9k readline in the rx8, I will be getting on it in the MSM, and bounce off the redline in 1st.
Either MS PnP, Hydra, or DSM link. Not sure I want to figure out how to run Link on the MSM engine.
So used to a 9k readline in the rx8, I will be getting on it in the MSM, and bounce off the redline in 1st.
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I assume you are refering to the 2 stage boost effect? Like the power seens to come on nicely as it crosses boost threshold, then it seems to jump again @ 5K?
I was aware of the asinine engine managment of the MSM. Just not sure about what engine management I want to use.
Hydra seems nice with the Autotune feature.
MS seems nice because other than autotune it does the same things, for way cheaper.
DSM link seems nice because I know how to tune it, and it would be the cheapest, good standalone. (Link is basically a full standalone that runs inside a Mitsubishi PCM and lets you tune like a full standalone, with launch control, antilag, and some other real nice features I wouldn't use on a mx5)
But DSM link would be the most work. I would have to get the injector to play nice, would have to get a CAS that works with link, would need to get coils or COPs that work with mitsubishi stuff. Then I would need to build a patch harness. Big can of worms. Might be easier to learn MS.
I was aware of the asinine engine managment of the MSM. Just not sure about what engine management I want to use.
Hydra seems nice with the Autotune feature.
MS seems nice because other than autotune it does the same things, for way cheaper.
DSM link seems nice because I know how to tune it, and it would be the cheapest, good standalone. (Link is basically a full standalone that runs inside a Mitsubishi PCM and lets you tune like a full standalone, with launch control, antilag, and some other real nice features I wouldn't use on a mx5)
But DSM link would be the most work. I would have to get the injector to play nice, would have to get a CAS that works with link, would need to get coils or COPs that work with mitsubishi stuff. Then I would need to build a patch harness. Big can of worms. Might be easier to learn MS.
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MS does autotune.
If you're budget minded I'd suggest just keeping an eye out in the classifieds. Within the last 3 months there have been at least 3 or 4 MS2extras, PNP for the MSM, come up in the classifieds and all were less than $700 shipped.
That'd do very, very nicely.
If you're budget minded I'd suggest just keeping an eye out in the classifieds. Within the last 3 months there have been at least 3 or 4 MS2extras, PNP for the MSM, come up in the classifieds and all were less than $700 shipped.
That'd do very, very nicely.
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Glad to see DIYautotune has come a lonnnnnnnnng way in the past decade.