Tacoma Noob Project
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Hello everybody,
I had to post the first 4 days together, but from now on it will be updated daily as I go.
Incase someone didnt read my Intro post here are my quallifications:
Experience19 year army veteran, 12 of those years as a helicopter engine mechanic (turbo prop engine not reciprocal), and about 25+ years of general wrench turning.
Facility Auto Skill Center Ft Lewis, Wa. A place provided by the Army for the do it yourself warriors, complete with all the tools and gizmos necessary to complete almost any job.
So far this is whats been done.
Day 0: Picked up and drove car from Orlando to Tacoma (4867 miles to include a detour in Vegas) May 25
Day 1: Shop was close due to inventory and annual fire inspection. So, I took the car home, got an electrical sander and empty 2 six packs. Oh yeah I did some sanding between Beers. June 23
Day 2: Drove 2hrs pick up a hard top. (craightlist add) Drove back only had time to perfom a compression test. 170-170-175-170, Not Bad for a 19 year old engine w/230K+. June 24
Day 3: I had previously picked up a RE-1 Body kit from a guy that attempted to installed himself and Fail ($200). Since I got no more space in my storage facility, and did not want any one triping over it and breaking it, I went ahead and "dry-fit" installed. It needs lots of work since the original guy damn near destroy it. June 25
Day 4: Engine & Tranny are out of the car. I was unnaware that the flywheel in this car was so heavy. No major Issues, but I am getting old. It took me almost 5 hrs to get that sucker out. June 26
Sorry about the low quality pictures, but the cellphone is all I got.
Please share your experiences with me, and I accept constructive Critisism...but I dont like to be troubleshot, I am too old for that ****.
Stick with me to the end...I only got 7 weeks to finish this up!!!
I had to post the first 4 days together, but from now on it will be updated daily as I go.
Incase someone didnt read my Intro post here are my quallifications:
Experience19 year army veteran, 12 of those years as a helicopter engine mechanic (turbo prop engine not reciprocal), and about 25+ years of general wrench turning.
Facility Auto Skill Center Ft Lewis, Wa. A place provided by the Army for the do it yourself warriors, complete with all the tools and gizmos necessary to complete almost any job.
So far this is whats been done.
Day 0: Picked up and drove car from Orlando to Tacoma (4867 miles to include a detour in Vegas) May 25
Day 1: Shop was close due to inventory and annual fire inspection. So, I took the car home, got an electrical sander and empty 2 six packs. Oh yeah I did some sanding between Beers. June 23
Day 2: Drove 2hrs pick up a hard top. (craightlist add) Drove back only had time to perfom a compression test. 170-170-175-170, Not Bad for a 19 year old engine w/230K+. June 24
Day 3: I had previously picked up a RE-1 Body kit from a guy that attempted to installed himself and Fail ($200). Since I got no more space in my storage facility, and did not want any one triping over it and breaking it, I went ahead and "dry-fit" installed. It needs lots of work since the original guy damn near destroy it. June 25
Day 4: Engine & Tranny are out of the car. I was unnaware that the flywheel in this car was so heavy. No major Issues, but I am getting old. It took me almost 5 hrs to get that sucker out. June 26
Sorry about the low quality pictures, but the cellphone is all I got.
Please share your experiences with me, and I accept constructive Critisism...but I dont like to be troubleshot, I am too old for that ****.
Stick with me to the end...I only got 7 weeks to finish this up!!!
Last edited by Maluk; 06-28-2010 at 02:52 AM.
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It actualy crossed my mind, but I am going to remove them, prep the underside, and then heat and blend them into the car. Its all about the unique thing, different from others.
All suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I am very interested in hearing from people that are running bigger valves (1mm over), and Cams (I am thinking 264*).
Also, I have worked in many engines before, but as we all know all engines are unique. I want to hear about the "watch out" things and the pros and cons of anything.
I am doing my research here, but any contribution will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
All suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I am very interested in hearing from people that are running bigger valves (1mm over), and Cams (I am thinking 264*).
Also, I have worked in many engines before, but as we all know all engines are unique. I want to hear about the "watch out" things and the pros and cons of anything.
I am doing my research here, but any contribution will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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The FAQ section will pretty much have all the "watch outs" for you. As well as pretty much all info to get you started with boost.
Will you be rebuilding the engine before boost? cause if you're not why do the cams and oversized valves? I say do all the standard maintenance, get that sucker up to shape maint wise, then start piecing together your own kit. Looks like you have the brains and experience to do it without many problems.
If you're pressed for time though looks like a starter kit from BEGi or FM would get you started REAL quick, then you can upgrade later.
Will you be rebuilding the engine before boost? cause if you're not why do the cams and oversized valves? I say do all the standard maintenance, get that sucker up to shape maint wise, then start piecing together your own kit. Looks like you have the brains and experience to do it without many problems.
If you're pressed for time though looks like a starter kit from BEGi or FM would get you started REAL quick, then you can upgrade later.
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Quite a few of us Army guys on here as well as a few Marines, Squids and yes even cChari Force guys as well (although that may have been covered in your intro thread that I'm too lazy to go hunt down
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What are your final plans for the car after your 7 week build time?
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What are your final plans for the car after your 7 week build time?
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I got to drop the car at the prot of Tacoma NLT 15 AUG. I dont report to Hohenfels til mid October, so I guess I'll be hanging around in Munchen (October Fest) till they run out of Brats and Beer!!!
Any clubs or groups up there near the "Rock"? Keep in touch brother, will meet soon!
Any clubs or groups up there near the "Rock"? Keep in touch brother, will meet soon!
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15 Aug I got to drop the car at the prot of Tacoma. I dont report to Hohenfels til mid October, so I guess I'll be hanging around in Munchen (October Fest) till they run out of Brats and Beer!!!
Any clubs or groups up there near the "Rock"? Keep in touch brother, will meet soon!
Any clubs or groups up there near the "Rock"? Keep in touch brother, will meet soon!
Have you been stationed in Germany before? This is my first duty station so I'm still nice and fresh in the Army, haha. No clubs to speak of here, I'm riding around in a '90 BMW with no more miata to speak of, probably won't have another one until I'm back in the states. Good luck on your project for sure!
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I am an old dog, been to Germany a few time (14 years all together). Bounce around Wiesbaden, Grafenwohr, Ansbach, Illesheim. (also speak the local lingo)
I was asking about car clubs(i alreday know where to party)
as for the car; a total rebuild (inside and out). For the turbo, ah...no more than a 2871 or equivalent. I am not planing on racing it or burning tires at every street lilght. Just something nice that turns heads and can keep up on A6 without getting flash-off the left lane.
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Day 5: Got up late, was dragging *** all day. Not much accomplished. June 27
- Dissasemble engine. All pistons and Cylinders measurements and clearances are within book standard
- Quick clean up.
- Lable all parts.
- Removed Seats.
- Removed Center Console and Intrument panel (what was left of it)
Shop is closed Mon and Tue. Will take engine & head to machine shop this week (whenever pistons and valeves get deliver)
- Dissasemble engine. All pistons and Cylinders measurements and clearances are within book standard
- Quick clean up.
- Lable all parts.
- Removed Seats.
- Removed Center Console and Intrument panel (what was left of it)
Shop is closed Mon and Tue. Will take engine & head to machine shop this week (whenever pistons and valeves get deliver)
Last edited by Maluk; 06-28-2010 at 02:57 AM.
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Day 6: Shop is closed, so I brought a few parts home and did my best.
Setback!!! Pistons and rods came in, but they are the wrong size. Call the guy, lots of blah blah, It will be two weeks before I get the correct ones. (Putana di merda)
Seat covers are decent quality $120 (ebay).
Glow gauges $16 (Dont think I will keep them)
Pretty up the Valve cover $12 (including a sixpack)
Setback!!! Pistons and rods came in, but they are the wrong size. Call the guy, lots of blah blah, It will be two weeks before I get the correct ones. (Putana di merda)
Seat covers are decent quality $120 (ebay).
Glow gauges $16 (Dont think I will keep them)
Pretty up the Valve cover $12 (including a sixpack)
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Day 7 Not much got done.
This is starting to look like the classic "ship Wright Disease project"
Cant lose motivation! Time to pull and dust off the old bottle of Johnny Walker blue I have hidden in a foot locker.
After pulling the Carpet and Dash I realize that this look a lot worse that what I initialy expected. Hole on the floor board, cables fried, tons of rust.
BTW, I have search all of the sites around with no luck. Can anyone here hook me up with a complete Torsen set up? PM me please. Need it before the end of the month.
This is starting to look like the classic "ship Wright Disease project"
Cant lose motivation! Time to pull and dust off the old bottle of Johnny Walker blue I have hidden in a foot locker.
After pulling the Carpet and Dash I realize that this look a lot worse that what I initialy expected. Hole on the floor board, cables fried, tons of rust.
BTW, I have search all of the sites around with no luck. Can anyone here hook me up with a complete Torsen set up? PM me please. Need it before the end of the month.
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Day 8: Unable to accomplish Jack. I am sick as a dog, and starting to get frustrated. Just did some major cleaning, patch the hole on the floor board, and cut the holes for the speakers (Hakuna style).
My normal work load is getting on the way, and to top it off I get to watch the "extra duty kids" all next week (stupid pot-heads).
No pictures today.
P.S. I attempted to Pm Braineak for an MS, but he havent responded (I am sure the man is busy). Is anyone out here willing to build one please PM me. I dont have the time nor the tools to properly do it. My hands shake too much and my eye sight is suspect.
My normal work load is getting on the way, and to top it off I get to watch the "extra duty kids" all next week (stupid pot-heads).
No pictures today.
P.S. I attempted to Pm Braineak for an MS, but he havent responded (I am sure the man is busy). Is anyone out here willing to build one please PM me. I dont have the time nor the tools to properly do it. My hands shake too much and my eye sight is suspect.
Last edited by Maluk; 07-05-2010 at 12:51 AM.
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Contact Wayne_Curr on this board, he's less busy than Braineack and will build you an MS for cheap.
Glad you dove into the cleanup of that interior without giving up, a lot of people can get too frustrated to continue at that point. Take a pressure washer to the carpet if you have it, then lay it out to dry in this incredibly hot weather we're having.
Glad you dove into the cleanup of that interior without giving up, a lot of people can get too frustrated to continue at that point. Take a pressure washer to the carpet if you have it, then lay it out to dry in this incredibly hot weather we're having.
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Contact Wayne_Curr on this board, he's less busy than Braineack and will build you an MS for cheap.
Glad you dove into the cleanup of that interior without giving up, a lot of people can get too frustrated to continue at that point. Take a pressure washer to the carpet if you have it, then lay it out to dry in this incredibly hot weather we're having.
Glad you dove into the cleanup of that interior without giving up, a lot of people can get too frustrated to continue at that point. Take a pressure washer to the carpet if you have it, then lay it out to dry in this incredibly hot weather we're having.
The interior was taken care off. I took a grinder with a wire brush to it, then welded a sheet metal patch, cover the complete bottom floor with fiberglass resin, and to top it off painted over it with Rust Oleum. Overkill, yes it was, but I garantee you that floor will last longer than the whole car (it will also help with sound suppression.
Thanks for the contact Curly.
I'll PM him right away.
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Day 9: July 14 Done with the baby sitting of stupid GI's. Got to work on the car for a few hours.
- Sound prof the floor, back panel and rear deck.
- Ran all wiring for the stereo system.
Day 10: July 15
- Put dash back in, the carpet, soft top, and did some spark chasing to fix some minor issues.
Day 11: July 16
- Ceramic coated the piston crowns and teflon the skirts and lifters
- Pick up engine block and head from Machine shop.
- #4 Oil Jet bolt broke while torking.
Notes:
- This engine was originally desing for the mazda 323 GTX, which is a Turbo engine. The stock pistons can withstand around to 30 PSI, forge pistons around 42PSI, but they need tapering of the cylinder wall in order to better protect and keep piston slap to a minimum.
- While doing research I noted that individuals that use forge pistons rebuild their engines more often than the ones that keep the regular pistons.
- I originally wanted to oversize the cylinders and put wiseco pistons, but since I am not going to run this car on the track and most likely keep it below 12 PSI of boost, I decided to keep it stock.
- I am still upgrading to 256* cams and 1mm oversize valves. I understand this is going to be a headeck when it comes time to do some tunning, but I have already purchased this and I am not going to stare at them or keep them around as paperweights.
- I still got tons of work to do. I just hope ***** stops breaking and setting me back.
If I am writing about something that doesnt make any sence by all means drop a line and lets disscuse it. I have never claimed to be a genious...just a sick nut that love turning wrenches!!
- Sound prof the floor, back panel and rear deck.
- Ran all wiring for the stereo system.
Day 10: July 15
- Put dash back in, the carpet, soft top, and did some spark chasing to fix some minor issues.
Day 11: July 16
- Ceramic coated the piston crowns and teflon the skirts and lifters
- Pick up engine block and head from Machine shop.
- #4 Oil Jet bolt broke while torking.
Notes:
- This engine was originally desing for the mazda 323 GTX, which is a Turbo engine. The stock pistons can withstand around to 30 PSI, forge pistons around 42PSI, but they need tapering of the cylinder wall in order to better protect and keep piston slap to a minimum.
- While doing research I noted that individuals that use forge pistons rebuild their engines more often than the ones that keep the regular pistons.
- I originally wanted to oversize the cylinders and put wiseco pistons, but since I am not going to run this car on the track and most likely keep it below 12 PSI of boost, I decided to keep it stock.
- I am still upgrading to 256* cams and 1mm oversize valves. I understand this is going to be a headeck when it comes time to do some tunning, but I have already purchased this and I am not going to stare at them or keep them around as paperweights.
- I still got tons of work to do. I just hope ***** stops breaking and setting me back.
If I am writing about something that doesnt make any sence by all means drop a line and lets disscuse it. I have never claimed to be a genious...just a sick nut that love turning wrenches!!
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Don't worry about pistons, as you have already discovered, stock ones are decent for a turbo setup. Before you ever reach 30psi though, no matter the turbo, you WILL break your differential, transmission, and bend your rods. More or less in that order. It's a flip of the coin whether you bend the rods or break the transmission first.
I'm just reading your last post, do you have any idea what manifold, turbo, DP, and engine management you'll be running?
I'm just reading your last post, do you have any idea what manifold, turbo, DP, and engine management you'll be running?
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I finally found a Torsen 3.9, it should be coming in week after next. I am also looking for a better tranny, but lets see what happens.
Today I should have my injectors and the DIYPNP coming in the Mail. I told Wayne that I will take a look at it first, and if I see that its out of my leage I will drop it off by his place and let him build it for me.
As far as the Turbo stuff, I got a GT2560, LM1 wideband Sensor, DIYPNP, DW 600cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, FM fuel rail, Six puck clutch and 13lbs Flywheel, a cast manifold and cheap DP from EBAY, but thats just till I get to Germany and have time to make a decent one together with downpipe.
I need to find that oil jet bolt today.