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EO2K 10-01-2015 10:26 PM

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gesso 10-01-2015 10:47 PM

Boggle! WTF

patsmx5 10-01-2015 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1271422)
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Manifold is dry inside

Merge looks SWEET! Very well done.

Time to pull manifold.

codrus 10-01-2015 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by gesso (Post 1271428)
Boggle! WTF

You used too much anti-seize! :)

--Ian

18psi 10-01-2015 11:27 PM

maybe only 1 valve seal is leaking and the rest of the exhaust flow is burning it off by the time it gets through mani?

EO2K 10-02-2015 12:46 AM

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Manifold ports. Images are inverted, bottom of image is top of manifold.


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The wet streaks are on the ceiling of the runners.

gesso 10-02-2015 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1271430)
You used too much anti-seize! :)

--Ian

I was under the impression that isn't actually possible.:dealwithit:

EO2K 10-02-2015 12:46 AM

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Exhaust ports. Sorry, this was done with a flashlight and cell phone :D

I tried to get a couple of angles on each of the ports. The second pic for #3 wasn't worth a damn so you only get one.

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Oil AAAAALLLLLLLLLL down the side of my block, oil pan, subframe... :cry:
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I just cleaned and/or painted all that crap.

EO2K 10-02-2015 12:47 AM

It's obviously the valve stem seals.

Tops of the ports are wet, bottoms are mostly dry and there is a very distinct set of streaks where the oil flows down the port and down the runner. Interestingly enough there is no or very little oil on the valves themselves.

There is no point in pulling the head and trying to send it back to have the stem seals replaced. I'll be down for weeks, plus head gasket, plus that drama. There is also no point in taking it to a shop to have $12.49 worth of seals replaced for some obscene sum of money worth of labor charges. Pretty much the only option that's worth a damn is doing it myself.

gesso 10-02-2015 12:49 AM

Nvm

18psi 10-02-2015 12:51 AM

Compressed air and/or the rope trick, the "tool", and a focused evening, and it can be done before MRLS

good2go 10-02-2015 12:54 AM

Damn! First the coffee cup, then this; when will the third shoe drop? :ugh:

EO2K 10-02-2015 12:55 AM

I have a set of brand new supertech seals in my garage, I don't have a valve spring compressor tool.

EO2K 10-02-2015 01:06 AM

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...ls-head-82278/

My big question is WHY is this leaking? These are valve stem seals, they are pretty hard to fuck up. This makes me think something else is going on here.

EO2K 10-02-2015 01:07 AM

Or maybe that's just paranoia? :vash:

codrus 10-02-2015 01:24 AM

Sorry, a DOHC valve spring compressor tool is one I don't have.

Where did the head come from? Is it a 949 one?

--Ian

EO2K 10-02-2015 01:32 AM

I'll probably just order one, they are $60-80 on Amazon. The question is can I compress the Supertech übersprings with any of those compressors with the head on.

Yes, that's where its from.

codrus 10-02-2015 02:29 AM

So what are you doing about Laguna? Going to put it back together and run it anyway?

--Ian

aidandj 10-02-2015 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1271462)
So what are you doing about Laguna? Going to put it back together and run it anyway?

--Ian

Finally some common sense

patsmx5 10-02-2015 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1271447)
It's obviously the valve stem seals.

Tops of the ports are wet, bottoms are mostly dry and there is a very distinct set of streaks where the oil flows down the port and down the runner. Interestingly enough there is no or very little oil on the valves themselves.

There is no point in pulling the head and trying to send it back to have the stem seals replaced. I'll be down for weeks, plus head gasket, plus that drama. There is also no point in taking it to a shop to have $12.49 worth of seals replaced for some obscene sum of money worth of labor charges. Pretty much the only option that's worth a damn is doing it myself.

Damn! That really sucks man. From the pics it looks like ALL of them are pouring oil. Seeing is you just got it tuned I'm pretty sure it has hardly any miles on it. With all of them leaking you need to figure out what's wrong. You didn't just get 8 bad valve stem seals and they all failed together that fast. Something screwy is going on to cause them all to fail that bad that fast. Don't laugh, but pop the valve cover and see if they even installed valve stem seals.

Whatever brand valve stems seals were used, I'd probably make sure those are NOT the brand that goes back in it. I'm curious which ones you used, so I can make sure I never use those.

And you called me a troll when I said I would question whoever assembled that head. :giggle: If I were you I'd yank the head and check EVERYTHING before something more catastropic than a bad valve stem seal happens. At least then you'll have peace of mind knowing it's all right. As an example, if all 8 exhaust valve stem seals are leaking, I think this would warrant pulling the intake manifold and having a peak on that side too.


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