Never ending, Mostly winter, turbo NB project.
#1
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Hi! i'm new here, i'm from Quebec, Canada.
Bought my NB July 2010, my 3rd winter off.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61329-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-37358_10150225764370046_6845656_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61330-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-168787_10150390284660046_4271761_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
This is what it looked like when i bought it, the previous owner got a NB2 bumper on but "fitted" the NB1 headlight + El cheapo universal fog lights.
So this is 2010, i got it off the road for winter n.1.
The project was :
-Maintenance
-Suspension
-Chassis
-Mild Performance upgrade
So i got the t-belt done and all front seals/water pump. Being there, i tought good to get a MSM cam, wich had a bit more lift, butg good enought with stock ECM.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61331-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-154851_10150332799320046_449734_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61332-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-189049_10150435678540046_7807018_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61333-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-184933_10150410315600046_4005153_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Got some OEM fog lights
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61334-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-65832_10150357006010046_451707_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Bossfrog frog arms
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61335-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-168933_10150385977060046_6994485_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Tein SS with New OEM mounts
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61336-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-73995_10150331382020046_5879749_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
K&N and acc.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61337-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-166411_10150385978360046_2088853_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
RB RSFB and Axle-Back
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61338-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-181730_10150398766855046_578265_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
SS Brake hose
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61339-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-167774_10150398767405046_2880988_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
No pro washer bottle and coolant bottle
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61340-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-180586_10150403344460046_2034802_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61341-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-183252_10150419864500046_3848618_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
FM stage I clutch w/10.3lbs FW
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61342-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-188199_10150449205350046_4531410_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
FM sways/Energy suspension bushings/ RB endlinks
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61343-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-190477_10150450183385046_1378422_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
TR motorsport w/ S.drive 205/50R15
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61344-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-226424_10150580408885046_408982_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
So the winter finished like that
So i got to the summer and keeped going
New top and style bar delete
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61345-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-206137_10150717496995046_3935447_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61346-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-223902_10150718191435046_1262214_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
RB headers, custom intake heat shield.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61347-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-292757_10150745340870046_3724162_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
And that is how she sit before winter n.2!
Bought my NB July 2010, my 3rd winter off.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61329-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-37358_10150225764370046_6845656_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61330-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-168787_10150390284660046_4271761_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
This is what it looked like when i bought it, the previous owner got a NB2 bumper on but "fitted" the NB1 headlight + El cheapo universal fog lights.
So this is 2010, i got it off the road for winter n.1.
The project was :
-Maintenance
-Suspension
-Chassis
-Mild Performance upgrade
So i got the t-belt done and all front seals/water pump. Being there, i tought good to get a MSM cam, wich had a bit more lift, butg good enought with stock ECM.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61331-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-154851_10150332799320046_449734_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61332-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-189049_10150435678540046_7807018_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61333-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-184933_10150410315600046_4005153_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Got some OEM fog lights
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61334-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-65832_10150357006010046_451707_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Bossfrog frog arms
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61335-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-168933_10150385977060046_6994485_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
Tein SS with New OEM mounts
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61336-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-73995_10150331382020046_5879749_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
K&N and acc.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61337-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-166411_10150385978360046_2088853_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
RB RSFB and Axle-Back
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61338-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-181730_10150398766855046_578265_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
SS Brake hose
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61339-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-167774_10150398767405046_2880988_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
No pro washer bottle and coolant bottle
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61340-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-180586_10150403344460046_2034802_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61341-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-183252_10150419864500046_3848618_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
FM stage I clutch w/10.3lbs FW
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61342-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-188199_10150449205350046_4531410_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
FM sways/Energy suspension bushings/ RB endlinks
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61343-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-190477_10150450183385046_1378422_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
TR motorsport w/ S.drive 205/50R15
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61344-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-226424_10150580408885046_408982_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
So the winter finished like that
So i got to the summer and keeped going
New top and style bar delete
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61345-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-206137_10150717496995046_3935447_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61346-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-223902_10150718191435046_1262214_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
RB headers, custom intake heat shield.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61347-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-292757_10150745340870046_3724162_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
And that is how she sit before winter n.2!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61348-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-299637_10150819241255046_1076063665_n.jpg?dateline=1354581429)
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So winter n.2 started off quite quickly!
The goal was :
Turbo
Roll bar
Front face lift
Parts came pretty early, end of november.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61349-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-382029_10150971998010046_1868135017_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61350-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-390147_10150993993615046_1888278570_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61351-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-310421_10150904825125046_913746189_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
So there we had it, For the front, i got a TR lip, JDM NB2 Headlights and some HID kits for Hi and Lo
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61352-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-379868_10151028933720046_1160950509_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61353-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-380940_10151028936655046_1533185616_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61354-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-388882_10151028938720046_1374178912_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
This is how i manage to get hi and lo work at the same time when on Hi
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61355-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-20111211200701.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
The i got the rollbar in.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61356-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-384430_10151109800690046_831141524_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
PAARRTTSSS
MiataRoaster Short shifter kit, Stock height
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61357-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-387498_10151057794365046_970509716_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Mazdaspeed Motormounts, Slave cylinder and 949 Stainless hose(long)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61358-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-407450_10151061303255046_1516723002_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Getting the shifter in
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61359-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-398654_10151154173040046_1871401210_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61360-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-383997_10151154173545046_1829879867_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61361-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-406903_10151154173800046_166080807_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Old motor mounts!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61362-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-407614_10151238539640046_434292916_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Then, thing got serious about the turbo project, so again ordered some stuff!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61363-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-405609_10151166058470046_1920215466_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And then this arrived
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61364-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-419282_10151259798870046_981532155_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
It's a voodoo II kit from Flyin' miata, wich hardware wise, is pretty amazing for the price. but i was'nt pleased with the piggyback systems.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61365-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-430935_10151270211480046_1951853588_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61366-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-426309_10151330218320046_1208716851_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61367-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-402713_10151330217665046_1494931860_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61368-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-422807_10151350010570046_1167144499_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And then, we were spring again!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61369-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-536239_10151448232655046_1756801841_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
But i could'nt stop, 3inch exhaust
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61370-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-251981_10151815906245046_1280142723_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Again! 95 T1 diff, moroso catch can
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61371-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-522038_10151850418805046_1902977785_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And this is how summer n.2 ended.
The goal was :
Turbo
Roll bar
Front face lift
Parts came pretty early, end of november.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61349-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-382029_10150971998010046_1868135017_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61350-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-390147_10150993993615046_1888278570_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61351-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-310421_10150904825125046_913746189_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
So there we had it, For the front, i got a TR lip, JDM NB2 Headlights and some HID kits for Hi and Lo
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61352-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-379868_10151028933720046_1160950509_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61353-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-380940_10151028936655046_1533185616_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61354-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-388882_10151028938720046_1374178912_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
This is how i manage to get hi and lo work at the same time when on Hi
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61355-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-20111211200701.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
The i got the rollbar in.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61356-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-384430_10151109800690046_831141524_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
PAARRTTSSS
MiataRoaster Short shifter kit, Stock height
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61357-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-387498_10151057794365046_970509716_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Mazdaspeed Motormounts, Slave cylinder and 949 Stainless hose(long)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61358-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-407450_10151061303255046_1516723002_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Getting the shifter in
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61359-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-398654_10151154173040046_1871401210_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61360-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-383997_10151154173545046_1829879867_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61361-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-406903_10151154173800046_166080807_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Old motor mounts!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61362-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-407614_10151238539640046_434292916_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Then, thing got serious about the turbo project, so again ordered some stuff!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61363-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-405609_10151166058470046_1920215466_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And then this arrived
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61364-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-419282_10151259798870046_981532155_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
It's a voodoo II kit from Flyin' miata, wich hardware wise, is pretty amazing for the price. but i was'nt pleased with the piggyback systems.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61365-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-430935_10151270211480046_1951853588_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61366-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-426309_10151330218320046_1208716851_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61367-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-402713_10151330217665046_1494931860_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61368-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-422807_10151350010570046_1167144499_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And then, we were spring again!
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61369-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-536239_10151448232655046_1756801841_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
But i could'nt stop, 3inch exhaust
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61370-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-251981_10151815906245046_1280142723_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
Again! 95 T1 diff, moroso catch can
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/61371-never-ending-mostly-winter-turbo-nb-project-522038_10151850418805046_1902977785_n.jpg?dateline=1354583352)
And this is how summer n.2 ended.
#5
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Now for winter n.3
This is what i have in mind!
Engine management(since i hate voodoo and static retard) This is were i am going to need you guys!
Fuel(Fuel pump, Rail, Injectors)
Coolant reroute
Minor body fix
This is were my mind is blinded, ECU's
i never tuned a car before, but i work on cars everyday, and i troubleshoot them as well.
i'm not sure on what ECU to go too w/ my non-experience.
Checked out hydra for long, but they are expensive, and people around here don't seem to like it that much.
Checked out alot the MS, but then i have a few choice(in plug n play) The MS2 PnP or the Braineak version MS3.
Did'nt check much the Adaptronic or the AEM
So do you guys have any suggestion on what to look for. i need a solid base map for sure. Remember i'm with stock interns, have a GT2560, and don't plan on much more than 10-12PSI
And i am open on any suggestion for fuel pump, injectors and rail
(i had Walbro 255, rx-8 inj., and M-tuned rail w/ some sort of ajustable regulator in mind)
This is what i have in mind!
Engine management(since i hate voodoo and static retard) This is were i am going to need you guys!
Fuel(Fuel pump, Rail, Injectors)
Coolant reroute
Minor body fix
This is were my mind is blinded, ECU's
i never tuned a car before, but i work on cars everyday, and i troubleshoot them as well.
i'm not sure on what ECU to go too w/ my non-experience.
Checked out hydra for long, but they are expensive, and people around here don't seem to like it that much.
Checked out alot the MS, but then i have a few choice(in plug n play) The MS2 PnP or the Braineak version MS3.
Did'nt check much the Adaptronic or the AEM
So do you guys have any suggestion on what to look for. i need a solid base map for sure. Remember i'm with stock interns, have a GT2560, and don't plan on much more than 10-12PSI
And i am open on any suggestion for fuel pump, injectors and rail
(i had Walbro 255, rx-8 inj., and M-tuned rail w/ some sort of ajustable regulator in mind)
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That list pic is neat, lol.
And I agree it's your injectors.. Get an EMS and some injectors, then tune it. If you cant get enough fuel to run your target AFR (high 11's) then you may need a pump. Until then i highly doubt the pump is the issue.
And I agree it's your injectors.. Get an EMS and some injectors, then tune it. If you cant get enough fuel to run your target AFR (high 11's) then you may need a pump. Until then i highly doubt the pump is the issue.
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I've yet to have fueling problems so far. Serious question, btw - because I was under the assumption that the stock pump is fine.
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Unless you're running high fuel pressures the stock pump is fine. I don't really know why 18psi is recommending one.
Plenty of cars make 250+ with the stock pump, as long as you have appropriately sized injectors for the power you want to make and AFR's are holding steady (and PW doesn't spike dramatically implying the pump is not supplying the fuel you need).
The stock pump can flow enough fuel for 300bhp, just. It's worth re-wiring it with it's own direct relayed fuse though
See SlowMX5 - ECU and Electronics for guidance on re-wiring the pump.
Plenty of cars make 250+ with the stock pump, as long as you have appropriately sized injectors for the power you want to make and AFR's are holding steady (and PW doesn't spike dramatically implying the pump is not supplying the fuel you need).
The stock pump can flow enough fuel for 300bhp, just. It's worth re-wiring it with it's own direct relayed fuse though
See SlowMX5 - ECU and Electronics for guidance on re-wiring the pump.