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codrus 04-14-2017 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1406130)
@turbofan how did you get just a new OEM sock? https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...handers-89826/

Also, in above thread, Ian says he has an OEM sock, but pic on post 6 is not an OEM sock.

Scroll down in the thread and look at #16.

--Ian

DNMakinson 04-14-2017 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1406128)
Assuming you mean "Mazda", sure they do, I bought one. Looks like it's part # BP4W-13-ZE1 (at least, for an NB1, didn't check other years). "Filter, fuel pump."

I swapped out the one that had come with my Walbro for a new OEM one back when I was first investigating this problem last summer (a few pages back on the build thread). The OEM sock is held open with a spring, the Walbro one is not. The OEM sock went onto the Walbro input just fine, no rattling. Haven't tried a DW pump.

It didn't make any difference in the fuel starvation, though.

--Ian

OK. Local Mazda dealer told me not. Thanks. But if it didn't help you, I guess I won't bother.

turbofan 04-14-2017 06:46 PM

FWIW, I never followed up in that thread... I thought putting in an OEM sock fixed my issue, but it didn't. It got a bit better, but still can't go below 1/4 tank. Hard left handers, no powah.

aidandj 04-14-2017 08:38 PM

I think you should both add a hose extension on your return line. The pipe is easy to cut with a pipe cover. slip some hose over it and run it down to the sock.

2 cases of starvation, both using the same method of return.

It may not solve it. But its a logical explanation.

codrus 04-14-2017 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1406148)
I think you should both add a hose extension on your return line. The pipe is easy to cut with a pipe cover. slip some hose over it and run it down to the sock.

2 cases of starvation, both using the same method of return.

It may not solve it. But its a logical explanation.

It makes it a PITA to reinstall the stock FPR, should that ever be necessary for... regulatory reasons.

--Ian

aidandj 04-14-2017 09:38 PM

AN -6 Fuel Rail Delivery Regulator Adaptor Fit Mazda Miata MX5 NA NB Series | eBay

DNMakinson 04-14-2017 11:00 PM

It does make sense that Mazda added that little piece of hose beneath the FPR for a reason. That fitting and a few inches of hard line would mimic the factory return.

aidandj 04-14-2017 11:02 PM

I actually have one of those I was going to use before I built my own fuel rail. Good quality. I spent more on a black one. Saving it in case my diy fuel rail leaks

codrus 04-14-2017 11:44 PM

OK, ordered one of those fittings and the next time I have the fuel tank open I'll put it in.

I picked up a set of the directional rotors from Andrew yesterday and started putting them on.

Close up of the cracks:

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...ril-2017-5.jpg

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...ril-2017-8.jpg

Checking the hole spacing on the hats. They all came in within 0.008 inches, which seems pretty good.

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...il-2017-10.jpg

Directional rotors.

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...ril-2017-6.jpg

They are a lot meatier than the cheap ones. That's more heat sink mass (good), plus it also means the inner edge the pad won't rid over the gaps and the attachment tabs, which was something that someone on another forum had expressed concern about.

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...ril-2017-9.jpg

--Ian

sonofthehill 04-14-2017 11:53 PM

Get another fuel pump/level assembly from the junkyard and wrap it up.

Maybe you guys should be running slightly narrower pads that don't ride over the gap. :dunno:

codrus 04-15-2017 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1406175)
Get another fuel pump/level assembly from the junkyard and wrap it up.

Maybe you guys should be running slightly narrower pads that don't ride over the gap. :dunno:

I'm not sure what another pump/level assembly would do for me?

Narrower pads don't really exist.

--Ian

codrus 04-15-2017 01:50 AM

And, two directional track rotors assembled.

http://www.codrus.com/miata/fm2r/rot...il-2017-11.jpg

Now I just need to find the time to go to another track day to test them.

--Ian

sonofthehill 04-15-2017 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1406156)
It makes it a PITA to reinstall the stock FPR, should that ever be necessary for... regulatory reasons.

--Ian

An easy swap for "reasons"?

Maybe machine the pads a bit?

codrus 04-15-2017 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by sonofthehill (Post 1406187)
An easy swap for "reasons"?

Maybe machine the pads a bit?

Oh, I see. Nah, the $20 fitting is simpler and it means fewer parts I have to keep track of on the shelf.

Machining pads sounds like a really messy, ugly job. The directional rotors are broader, so the existing pads should fit on them just fine.

--Ian

sonofthehill 04-15-2017 02:08 AM

Sounds good

EO2K 04-17-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1406148)
I think you should both add a hose extension on your return line. The pipe is easy to cut with a pipe cover. slip some hose over it and run it down to the sock.

2 cases of starvation, both using the same method of return.

It may not solve it. But its a logical explanation.

Agreed.

Attachment 181249

See the short piece of black hose after the regulator? I'm sure Mazda put it there for a reason.

(Ignore the random extra crap in the image, its from some guys Camero engine swap thread on M.net)

aidandj 04-17-2017 02:12 PM

WTF is that. Sock looks like a shriveled up dick.

EO2K 04-17-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1406644)
(Ignore the random extra crap in the image, its from some guys Camero engine swap thread on M.net)


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1406645)
WTF is that. Sock looks like a shriveled up dick.

Read n00b.

Here, I cropped it for you so you wouldn't get distracted

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1492452876

:giggle:

Attachment 235223

^^ FaeFae fingers in this one ;)

aidandj 04-17-2017 02:15 PM

Edit came too late

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1d50a9a978.png

EO2K 04-17-2017 02:20 PM

Wait more than 0.003 seconds before responding and you won't have this problem :rofl:

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2OFgxNj...Xs7bL/$_57.JPG

(Its surprisingly difficult to find a pic with the stock setup with the hose attached)


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