Fireindc's attempt to build a decent miata. (the search for more torque).
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Gonna look into that, $140 for a higher flow pump sounds like a steal.
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I think Efini meant that he bought the 94-00 BP4W pump.
The BP4W pump superseded the old part numbers for all earlier Miata BPs
94-00 = BP4W-14-100A
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01-05 = BP6D-14-100
The 6D pump is just over $300 and the Boundary Street/Strip pump is over $400 IIRC
The BP4W pump superseded the old part numbers for all earlier Miata BPs
94-00 = BP4W-14-100A
-vs-
01-05 = BP6D-14-100
The 6D pump is just over $300 and the Boundary Street/Strip pump is over $400 IIRC
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I'm probably in the minority but I don't believe most of us actually need the BE pump. We aren't pushing past the stock redline and we aren't running at peak power for sprint races or long *** enduro sessions. Of course, $300-$400 for the BE is as they say "cheap insurance" $3,000 built motor.
I bought a SuperMiata damper for my engine with the 6D pump. Hopefully this will be "enough" for my shenanigans. Becausestreetcar
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Nice! I hadn't seen the BE street pump. I really wonder what the functional difference is between them all. Is there hard flow/volume data out there for the BE pumps or is it more of a longevity/durability thing? I've been lead to believe its the latter, but I could be wrong. ![Dunno](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
I'm probably in the minority but I don't believe most of us actually need the BE pump. We aren't pushing past the stock redline and we aren't running at peak power for sprint races or long *** enduro sessions. Of course, $300-$400 for the BE is as they say "cheap insurance" $3,000 built motor.
I bought a SuperMiata damper for my engine with the 6D pump. Hopefully this will be "enough" for my shenanigans. Becausestreetcar![Party Kitty](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/birthday[1].gif)
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I'm probably in the minority but I don't believe most of us actually need the BE pump. We aren't pushing past the stock redline and we aren't running at peak power for sprint races or long *** enduro sessions. Of course, $300-$400 for the BE is as they say "cheap insurance" $3,000 built motor.
I bought a SuperMiata damper for my engine with the 6D pump. Hopefully this will be "enough" for my shenanigans. Becausestreetcar
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Now, i'm going to get me an OEM oil pump, the DNJ/ITM parts are fine I'm sure.. and i would not hesitate to use them in a stock motor, but i just want the peace of mind for my build at this point. OEM pump it is, now to hunt down the best price.
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The pump I got is not the VVT pump, as mentioned it is ~$300 from Rosenthal.
I also struggled on the BE Street pump vs. new OEM vs. Rock Auto vs. re-using 150k mile stock pump decision.
My engine build is now well past the 18psi rods only method, and my original budget and intent has changed. I still have trouble swallowing the $300 plus for the BE pump and am hoping the new OEM pump will suffice for this first build. I'm not planning on tracking the car with this engine, at least not regularly, and I'm not planning on running 400hp so HOPEFULLY the OEM pump is ok.
Hopefully
I also struggled on the BE Street pump vs. new OEM vs. Rock Auto vs. re-using 150k mile stock pump decision.
My engine build is now well past the 18psi rods only method, and my original budget and intent has changed. I still have trouble swallowing the $300 plus for the BE pump and am hoping the new OEM pump will suffice for this first build. I'm not planning on tracking the car with this engine, at least not regularly, and I'm not planning on running 400hp so HOPEFULLY the OEM pump is ok.
Hopefully
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Put items in shopping cart.
Get liquor in your system.
Play loud music.
Run a little more liquor down in you.
Buy parts you can't decide on.
Profit???
That's Erat's method.
Get liquor in your system.
Play loud music.
Run a little more liquor down in you.
Buy parts you can't decide on.
Profit???
That's Erat's method.
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LOL, love you guys. I try to make my purchases with logic, does not always work.
Anyways so far my parts list that I HAVE sitting here ready to go:
CHINA rods w/ arp hardware
KING main/rod/thrust bearings
Chromoly rings ("premium" rock auto)
ARP headstuds/mainstuds
MLS felpro headgasket
Gates blue timing belt
OEM mazda BP4W oil pump
A bunch of misc engine seals
So pretty much ready to start ******' **** up on this bottom end. I have a few questions for you guys,
#1 is there a specific brand plasti-gauge I should get that is better than others? What did you guys use, and would you use it again?
#2 assembly lube, what kind?
#3 should I install ARP hardware for my initial torquing to get clearance #'s, or should I use the oem stuff and then use the ARP on final assembly?
#4 ANY other tips for me? First bottom end i've ever attempted to build. My dads gonna help, and he has experience with this so I'm not too worried. I know i should clean the everliving **** out of EVERYTHING which is going to be my first step.
Anyways so far my parts list that I HAVE sitting here ready to go:
CHINA rods w/ arp hardware
KING main/rod/thrust bearings
Chromoly rings ("premium" rock auto)
ARP headstuds/mainstuds
MLS felpro headgasket
Gates blue timing belt
OEM mazda BP4W oil pump
A bunch of misc engine seals
So pretty much ready to start ******' **** up on this bottom end. I have a few questions for you guys,
#1 is there a specific brand plasti-gauge I should get that is better than others? What did you guys use, and would you use it again?
#2 assembly lube, what kind?
#3 should I install ARP hardware for my initial torquing to get clearance #'s, or should I use the oem stuff and then use the ARP on final assembly?
#4 ANY other tips for me? First bottom end i've ever attempted to build. My dads gonna help, and he has experience with this so I'm not too worried. I know i should clean the everliving **** out of EVERYTHING which is going to be my first step.
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Sand blasting is your enemy, steam/jet cleaning is your friend.
I use whatever assembly lube is available, as long as it's marketed for engine assembly. Be ready to change the oil in ~50 miles.
I use whatever assembly lube is available, as long as it's marketed for engine assembly. Be ready to change the oil in ~50 miles.
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Pistons i figure i can scrub with a nylon brush and degreaser or something else. Should I try to polish any minor imperfections in the skirts, etc? Crank looks so perfect I'm not even going to try to polish it or anything.
Do you typically plasti-gauge your builds, or go blind? What brand plastigauge do you use?
Thx <3
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You know.. it would, if i didn't live in the boonies. Getting to a machine shop with a hot tank is going to be a 300 mile round trip, which really is not in the bag for me right now (time = money).
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Not a bad idea, thanks.
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No steam cleaner unfortunately, certainly WON'T be using the sand blaster for this. I plan on using a ton of degreaser and my power washer while the engine is on the stand to prevent contamination.
Pistons i figure i can scrub with a nylon brush and degreaser or something else. Should I try to polish any minor imperfections in the skirts, etc? Crank looks so perfect I'm not even going to try to polish it or anything.
Do you typically plasti-gauge your builds, or go blind? What brand plastigauge do you use?
Thx <3
Pistons i figure i can scrub with a nylon brush and degreaser or something else. Should I try to polish any minor imperfections in the skirts, etc? Crank looks so perfect I'm not even going to try to polish it or anything.
Do you typically plasti-gauge your builds, or go blind? What brand plastigauge do you use?
Thx <3