DS1 has a horrible Build Thread.
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And I'm assuming that there must be more than just the two of us. ![big grin](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
But in all honesty, I see no reason to change. The interface architecture which was developed for Windows 95 (start menu, control panel, desktop, etc) really does work quite fabulously in a desktop context. I see no advantage whatsoever to the Vista / 7 interface which attempts to abstract the majority of the available applications and services from the user, nor the Win8 interface which attempts to turn your desktop PC into a smartphone.
To be fair, I do draw a distinction between emulating the INTERFACE of an old OS vs. trying to run the actual old OS itself. One problem that you start to run into with old operating systems is driver support. So, in reality, you probably wouldn't want to load an actual copy of Win98 onto a brand-new ultrabook, as it's highly probable that the requisite drivers simply do not exist for 90% of the hardware in the machine. It would run, but you'd be stuck at 640x480, with no AHCI support, no networking of any kind, etc.
The fact that Win7 is really the first consumer-grade release which supports 64 bit addressing AND has reasonable driver support* is really about the only reason that I've upgraded my main PCs to it from XP.
* = There was a 64 bit version of XP Pro, and I tried it on one of my machines. Sadly, it doesn't work well on desktop PCs, since 32 bit drivers and DLLs are incompatible with it and it was such a niche OS that very few vendors wrote 64 bit versions of anything even remotely related to graphics, audio, etc for it. XP64 was really a server-only OS.
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But in all honesty, I see no reason to change. The interface architecture which was developed for Windows 95 (start menu, control panel, desktop, etc) really does work quite fabulously in a desktop context. I see no advantage whatsoever to the Vista / 7 interface which attempts to abstract the majority of the available applications and services from the user, nor the Win8 interface which attempts to turn your desktop PC into a smartphone.
To be fair, I do draw a distinction between emulating the INTERFACE of an old OS vs. trying to run the actual old OS itself. One problem that you start to run into with old operating systems is driver support. So, in reality, you probably wouldn't want to load an actual copy of Win98 onto a brand-new ultrabook, as it's highly probable that the requisite drivers simply do not exist for 90% of the hardware in the machine. It would run, but you'd be stuck at 640x480, with no AHCI support, no networking of any kind, etc.
The fact that Win7 is really the first consumer-grade release which supports 64 bit addressing AND has reasonable driver support* is really about the only reason that I've upgraded my main PCs to it from XP.
* = There was a 64 bit version of XP Pro, and I tried it on one of my machines. Sadly, it doesn't work well on desktop PCs, since 32 bit drivers and DLLs are incompatible with it and it was such a niche OS that very few vendors wrote 64 bit versions of anything even remotely related to graphics, audio, etc for it. XP64 was really a server-only OS.
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The general consensus is that 99% of the miata community is broke young kids, pathetic rednecks/hacks in their midlife, or senile wine-n-cheese old farts. In all those cases these cars get the worst possible treatment.
1) stupid rtard kids hack them up, rice them out, bolt up a bunch of crap to em and basically ruin the car altogether. "hellaflush" "stance" and "drift" is their operative language. the end result is failure and disgrace.
2) rednecks ghetto rig a bunch of junk onto the cars that is just as bad, if not worse than what the young rtard kids do. the end result is failure and humiliation.
3) the old farts don't care about going fast or looking nice, they get their kicks out of wood trim, gay looking chrome wheels, or polished style bars that compliment their chrome air vent rings and get together to go wine and cheese tasting every week.
That is what the majority is.
Then there is the 1%. The enthusiasts that cringe when they see any of the above. Guess which group the regulars of this site are striving to be?
1) stupid rtard kids hack them up, rice them out, bolt up a bunch of crap to em and basically ruin the car altogether. "hellaflush" "stance" and "drift" is their operative language. the end result is failure and disgrace.
2) rednecks ghetto rig a bunch of junk onto the cars that is just as bad, if not worse than what the young rtard kids do. the end result is failure and humiliation.
3) the old farts don't care about going fast or looking nice, they get their kicks out of wood trim, gay looking chrome wheels, or polished style bars that compliment their chrome air vent rings and get together to go wine and cheese tasting every week.
That is what the majority is.
Then there is the 1%. The enthusiasts that cringe when they see any of the above. Guess which group the regulars of this site are striving to be?
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Hey guys, sorry for the slow response, I've been crazy busy.
I got a promotion from eBay so ordered some of the other small-ish parts of the build. 2.5" piping and intercooler kit, HKS BOV, inlets and outlets for the SR20, and MXT-L (yeah I did it!), and a cheap boost gauge and some gauge pods.
The wastegate definitely looks damaged. Funny thing is since this turbo was just 100% rebuilt you would think there would be some marks on it from being dropped, but it looks like it was powder coated after the damage. I really don't want to put the whole turbo on just to find out my wastegate is screwed... time to buy a new wastegate and yell at the seller of this turbo?
Also, I got the manifold and a used BEGI Downpipe. Only problem is when I test fit everything together I can't for the life of me figure out how the downpipe is supposed to work with this turbo unless the turbo is top mounted - even the usual horizontal FM/BEGI log style won't work. Am I missing something silly or is this downpipe for a different application?
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/84897-ds1-has-horrible-build-thread-20d724b3-7621-41ba-ab3a-cd958de4220b-4622-0000020cc1374218.jpg?dateline=1375655502)
I got a promotion from eBay so ordered some of the other small-ish parts of the build. 2.5" piping and intercooler kit, HKS BOV, inlets and outlets for the SR20, and MXT-L (yeah I did it!), and a cheap boost gauge and some gauge pods.
The wastegate definitely looks damaged. Funny thing is since this turbo was just 100% rebuilt you would think there would be some marks on it from being dropped, but it looks like it was powder coated after the damage. I really don't want to put the whole turbo on just to find out my wastegate is screwed... time to buy a new wastegate and yell at the seller of this turbo?
Also, I got the manifold and a used BEGI Downpipe. Only problem is when I test fit everything together I can't for the life of me figure out how the downpipe is supposed to work with this turbo unless the turbo is top mounted - even the usual horizontal FM/BEGI log style won't work. Am I missing something silly or is this downpipe for a different application?
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/84897-ds1-has-horrible-build-thread-20d724b3-7621-41ba-ab3a-cd958de4220b-4622-0000020cc1374218.jpg?dateline=1375655502)
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Hey guys, sorry for the slow response, I've been crazy busy.
I got a promotion from eBay so ordered some of the other small-ish parts of the build. 2.5" piping and intercooler kit, HKS BOV, inlets and outlets for the SR20, and MXT-L (yeah I did it!), and a cheap boost gauge and some gauge pods.
The wastegate definitely looks damaged. Funny thing is since this turbo was just 100% rebuilt you would think there would be some marks on it from being dropped, but it looks like it was powder coated after the damage. I really don't want to put the whole turbo on just to find out my wastegate is screwed... time to buy a new wastegate and yell at the seller of this turbo?
Also, I got the manifold and a used BEGI Downpipe. Only problem is when I test fit everything together I can't for the life of me figure out how the downpipe is supposed to work with this turbo unless the turbo is top mounted - even the usual horizontal FM/BEGI log style won't work. Am I missing something silly or is this downpipe for a different application?
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/84897-ds1-has-horrible-build-thread-20d724b3-7621-41ba-ab3a-cd958de4220b-4622-0000020cc1374218.jpg?dateline=1375655502)
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/84898-ds1-has-horrible-build-thread-72894cd8-7cf3-498f-92ce-bb160253b8e5-4622-0000020ccb0e30d2.jpg?dateline=1375655502)
I got a promotion from eBay so ordered some of the other small-ish parts of the build. 2.5" piping and intercooler kit, HKS BOV, inlets and outlets for the SR20, and MXT-L (yeah I did it!), and a cheap boost gauge and some gauge pods.
The wastegate definitely looks damaged. Funny thing is since this turbo was just 100% rebuilt you would think there would be some marks on it from being dropped, but it looks like it was powder coated after the damage. I really don't want to put the whole turbo on just to find out my wastegate is screwed... time to buy a new wastegate and yell at the seller of this turbo?
Also, I got the manifold and a used BEGI Downpipe. Only problem is when I test fit everything together I can't for the life of me figure out how the downpipe is supposed to work with this turbo unless the turbo is top mounted - even the usual horizontal FM/BEGI log style won't work. Am I missing something silly or is this downpipe for a different application?
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/build-threads-57/84897-ds1-has-horrible-build-thread-20d724b3-7621-41ba-ab3a-cd958de4220b-4622-0000020cc1374218.jpg?dateline=1375655502)
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Oops sorry I mis-typed meant bottom mount! Flipping the manifold would be cool just for the top mount look, though ![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I'm thinking the DP will just get sold in favor of a different one to work with this manifold. Only thing is, I think I might still have to get a custom DP for this angle mounted manifold and the car being a 1.6....
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I'm thinking the DP will just get sold in favor of a different one to work with this manifold. Only thing is, I think I might still have to get a custom DP for this angle mounted manifold and the car being a 1.6....