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FAB 03-12-2014 12:58 PM

No crush! I'm tempted to send you my intercooler pipes for a test fitment just to make you a set for this car. I'd hate to see such top notch work with crush bent pipes.

EO2K 03-12-2014 12:59 PM

FM one piece silicone pipes FTW. Ask 18psi about fitment with the Fab9/Vibrant 350 core, I believe that's the setup he was running before partout.

Also, make sure you have those brackets oriented in such a way that the strain relief built into the bracket is supporting the wire, the put a hefty zip tie around it to secure it. If you do not, the wires will eventually work their way loose out of the back of the gauge... ask me how I know :facepalm:

Vuti 03-12-2014 01:48 PM

I still think that your gauges are too low to have any informative value.
But maybe it's just me.

EO2K 03-12-2014 01:55 PM

Its a compromise. If you put the gauges up where you can see them (A-pillar, dash) so can everyone else. You can stick them in the HVAC vents, but then you lose a vent. You can stick them in the console, but then they are out of direct line of sight.

If this was becauseracecar, there would be no question as to mounting. For becausestreetcar, I personally think its good to have the data available, even if the location is a compromise.

I'm starting to think needle gauges rotated to "nominal" is a good idea for this type of mounting.

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1111072)
After all this... you want crush bent intercooler piping? I swear i should give you negative props for that. :fawk::party:

Let he with no negative props cast the first stone!:fawk:


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1111073)
No crush! I'm tempted to send you my intercooler pipes for a test fitment just to make you a set for this car. I'd hate to see such top notch work with crush bent pipes.

I'd welcome it, if you need to charge me for shipping or anything else let me know, I ain't scared of being a test dummy!


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1111074)
FM one piece silicone pipes FTW. Ask 18psi about fitment with the Fab9/Vibrant 350 core, I believe that's the setup he was running before partout.

Also, make sure you have those brackets oriented in such a way that the strain relief built into the bracket is supporting the wire, the put a hefty zip tie around it to secure it. If you do not, the wires will eventually work their way loose out of the back of the gauge... ask me how I know :facepalm:

Awesome, props! I totally wouldn't have even considered that,


Originally Posted by Vuti (Post 1111098)
I still think that your gauges are too low to have any informative value.
But maybe it's just me.

If they do turn out to be too low I think an alternate solution wouldn't be too hard to make. For now, it is tolerable.

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Ok I wasn't really considering crushed pipes, just flights of errant laziness that kick in from time to time.:crx:

Rotated the turbo down.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394647126

But this damn bracket is right in the way of a 45/90 degree bend. I can not for the life of me recall what it is for. Power steering bracket?

Can I cut it off?

*edit* I guess I could use a straight silicone coupler and add the 90 bend to the aluminum pipe farther down...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394647126

mgeoffriau 03-12-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1111104)
Can I cut it off?

DO IT!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394647429



I love how a Google Image Search for "faeflora" returns all kinds of sawzall images.

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1111107)
DO IT!
Massive Fae fail image

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394647851

concealer404 03-12-2014 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1111107)
DO IT!




I love how a Google Image Search for "faeflora" returns all kinds of sawzall images.



And...... elves. o_O

FAB 03-12-2014 02:40 PM

You don't need it to be 90 degrees. Just rotate the 90 elbow you put on the turbo (towards the driver side). I personally would cut it though.

RotorNutFD3S 03-12-2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1111104)
But this damn bracket is right in the way of a 45/90 degree bend. I can not for the life of me recall what it is for. Power steering bracket?

Can I cut it off?

It's the mounting bracket for the OEM lower radiator hose hardpipe, NAs have two hose sections, one running from the radiator to the hardpipe and from the hardpipe to the mixing manifold. If you've moved to a single lower radiator hose (NB hose or FM hose) or another solution, you do not need that bracket any more. Cut or bend as needed, just not as much as faeflora. lol

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 03:46 PM

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Thanks Rotor

Slight segue, but I remember the paint shop telling me they get busy this time of the year so I stripped everything off the hardtop and am going to take it to a window shop to remove the glass. Vlad said you can do it yourself, but I don't want to risk breaking very very expensive hardtop glass(seriously have you looked at the price of it???)

Only bad thing I found was that the plastic trim along the bottom is missing about a foot of trim. Not sure if it is really necessary, but I'll be looking at replacing it.

I even managed not to break any clips! That is a first for me. Paint is in good shape but I think I'm going to lay some bondo down in a couple of deep scratches. Paint shop didn't do a very good job with my car on slight chips/dents so I'm going to do all the prep work myself this time.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394653578

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394653578

RotorNutFD3S 03-12-2014 04:46 PM

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When I had my hardtop repainted I was going to replace that trim as well. After some consideration I decided not to, IMO it looks better without it, at least on a black car. If you decide to replace your trim though, I have the little "protectors" brand new in the bag just wasting away on my shelf. You're welcome to them, would save you $30 or so for just those two pieces.

They look like:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394657178

They just provide retention for the leading edges of the trim and mostly keep it from getting pulled off.

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by RotorNutFD3S (Post 1111191)
When I had my hardtop repainted I was going to replace that trim as well. After some consideration I decided not to, IMO it looks better without it, at least on a black car.

See I thought maybe I was weird that it looked better without the trim. It seems like the "flow" of the hardtop gets interrupted, or shall I say the hard edge is more pronounced with the trim.

If the trim is pricy I'll just day screw it. It's going g to be permanent anyways. I'm just glad all the latch screws came off easy. I have the Rennenmetal hardtop brackets sitting in a box waiting to be put on.

18psi 03-12-2014 05:18 PM

holler at me if you want an FM silicone lower rad hose. to get rid of that ugly bracket and failsauce 2 piece rad hose

as for trim: I re-installed mine on current HT because I didn't run it on previous and there was slight chipping on the edges without it or something.

agreed that it looks way better without though

Yezzir 03-12-2014 05:42 PM

My brother cut his bracket off (using a hacksaw) just to where the surface overhanging above it would allow. Not sure if you have enough room at this point in your bay to get something in there and shave the whole thing off. It DOES free up a lot of space once that bracket is out of the way.

Question to anyone about the hardtop trim around the window: when I painted my hardtop, I removed my exterior trim around the window because it had paint on it from PO. Was wondering if anyone was able to fit on a new one without taking the window out. The two times I've seen someone try to put it on without taking out the window, it wrinkles at the bottom corners where the window bends.

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 05:43 PM

Am I just overthinking this?

AEM instructions call for a 12v power source with a 5A fuse in between the source.

I know you can just tap into a line under the dash, but am I crazy for doing it "the right way" and running some 16g wire back to the battery and putting a 30A 12v inline fuse before the battery?
(30A 12/24VDC Mini Blade In-Line Fuse Holder : Fuse Holders | RadioShack.com)

I know it is overkill, but it is what the instructions call for...Where do most people like to tap into?

I'm so excited to get rid of the rats nest of butt connectors from the previous gauges.

thasac 03-12-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1111104)

Just drill the spot welds and rip it off with a pair of vise grips. Buy FM lower hose. Win.


-Zach

FAB 03-12-2014 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1111215)
Am I just overthinking this?

AEM instructions call for a 12v power source with a 5A fuse in between the source.

I know you can just tap into a line under the dash, but am I crazy for doing it "the right way" and running some 16g wire back to the battery and putting a 30A 12v inline fuse before the battery?
(30A 12/24VDC Mini Blade In-Line Fuse Holder : Fuse Holders | RadioShack.com)

I know it is overkill, but it is what the instructions call for...Where do most people like to tap into?

I'm so excited to get rid of the rats nest of butt connectors from the previous gauges.


Jeff - Use the wires off of the ignition harness.

BLUE is a switched 12v supply on the harness going to your Ignition Key harness.
WHITE is a 12v constant (battery) wire.

Jeffbucc 03-12-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thasac (Post 1111227)
Just drill the spot welds and rip it off with a pair of vise grips. Buy FM lower hose. Win.


-Zach

Thanks! Vlad already pushed it on me so we are good to go...that crafty russian, always selling everything he owns.


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1111229)
Jeff - Use the wires off of the ignition harness.

BLUE is a switched 12v supply on the harness going to your Ignition Key harness.
WHITE is a 12v constant (battery) wire.

I've said it too often but...I love you Bryan
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394666633

hornetball 03-12-2014 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1111215)
Am I just overthinking this?

AEM instructions call for a 12v power source with a 5A fuse in between the source.

I know you can just tap into a line under the dash, but am I crazy for doing it "the right way" and running some 16g wire back to the battery and putting a 30A 12v inline fuse before the battery?
(30A 12/24VDC Mini Blade In-Line Fuse Holder : Fuse Holders | RadioShack.com)

I know it is overkill, but it is what the instructions call for...Where do most people like to tap into?

I'm so excited to get rid of the rats nest of butt connectors from the previous gauges.

These work well:



I'd rather do this and not tap-into/molest a factory wiring harness.


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