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Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 11:25 AM

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Rear subframe photos

Diff has lots of rust all over the housing

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386174496

Drained oil, bolts for fill/drain were completely rusted over, need to replace or wire wheel

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386174496

One good hub one bad

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386174496


control arms and bushings, lots of rust around the welds

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386174496

Group photo

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concealer404 12-04-2013 11:31 AM

That's.... not terribly rusty at all. Your OCD is showing. :)

rleete 12-04-2013 12:08 PM

You don't know what rust is. That's only surface scale.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1079478)
That's.... not terribly rusty at all. Your OCD is showing. :)

I swear it looks much worse in person. I blame you for my already bad OCD being turned up to 11. You just HAD to mention zinc plating! ;)


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1079494)
You don't know what rust is. That's only surface scale.

I apparently don't. But the orange color drives me insane! Which is ironic because I live in the fucking desert!



My OCD shows like a hooker in Vegas, very very obvious and dangerous to ones health and bank account.

I can't help it!

turbofan 12-04-2013 01:57 PM

So, seriously... is that amount of rust actually even significant? I mean, I look at it and say "that looks normal or better than normal to me." Even that "bad" hub looks fine and normal to me. I mean, no it's not pretty or new but I would expect it to look like that and can't imagine it significantly affects the structural integrity of the hub.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1079552)
So, seriously... is that amount of rust actually even significant? I mean, I look at it and say "that looks normal or better than normal to me." Even that "bad" hub looks fine and normal to me. I mean, no it's not pretty or new but I would expect it to look like that and can't imagine it significantly affects the structural integrity of the hub.

I'm are it would run just fine with no issues. I just get stuck in a "I'm restoring a car with new paint wheels etc etc so I might as well do it while the car is in pieces". I do this with everything. My store, mountain biking, computer, cleaning....it honestly doesn't bug me though. After owning a business for 5 years I can't just sit around and do nothing, I go stir crazy. Plus I only sleep 4-6 hours a days(if that) so lots of free time.

Plus the car is in paint until the end of this week/next week so why not? I'm waiting to fix the wiring harness after I can put it in the car so I can see where everything goes.

I'm going to take my sweet time assembling the car. I know I will run into many road blocks of confusion.

Sorry, I segue'd there....

rleete 12-04-2013 02:10 PM

Quite frankly, I'm jealous. If my car was that clean, I'd be less inclined to blow off working on it. As it is, I'd kill to have your fully restored car, or the patience to do it to my own.

Braineack 12-04-2013 02:16 PM

7 posts with no more pictures...disappointed.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1079563)
7 posts with no more pictures...disappointed.

Look at my last 4 posts on page 8, that'll satiate yah!:dealwithit:

hornetball 12-04-2013 04:11 PM

Seriously, that's one of the cleanest rear subframes I've ever seen. Throw some paint at it and move on.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1079607)
Seriously, that's one of the cleanest rear subframes I've ever seen. Throw some paint at it and move on.

Yup, just gonna spot treat the welds.

So I did something I may regret at a later date. I washed all the bolts to send them out later today to Northern Utah for a Zinc coating.

Soaked them in 100% degreaser followed by a dangerous concoction, followed by a diluted phosphoric acid to neutralize the rust. Then I put everything in a big storage tupperware container and got my power washer out and hit them with the turbo nozzle until no more flecks of paint/grease/dirt/grime came off the bolts and the water was running clear.

After that I got a big ass fine mesh strainer from my bakery and put all the bolts into it and attached my shop vac to the bottom to pull all the water off the bolts while using my air compressor to blow the water down to the shop vac. Then quickly laid them out on some towels and gave them a shot of wd-40 just in case.

Only took about 3 hours to do all that if you don't count letting them soak overnight.

At the beginning I felt like this...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

Then after I had cleaned everything and the shear cluster fuck sized pile of bolts appeared I had this reaction.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

Then I realized that that is about 2 cars worth of bolts, and I relaxed big time after that. Strangely I can mostly recall where everything goes, or at least the general area it belongs. It'll suck major donkey balls, but worth it in the end.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

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While I had my power washer out I quickly cleaned the gunk off of the outside.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

Still waiting for a little of the dampness to leave the seat covers then they will get some black magic.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386195443

:party:

curly 12-04-2013 05:37 PM

I can identify 99% of those brackets and bigger bolts, the hardest part is getting the correct length for all those M6x1 bolts. They're absolutely everywhere.

Just keep in mind that the Miata is one of the few cars that was designed with lightness as a major priority. Do the work to make sure you only use a bolt who's tip sits flush with the end of the threads, or barely protrudes and you'll be fine.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1079655)
I can identify 99% of those brackets and bigger bolts, the hardest part is getting the correct length for all those M6x1 bolts. They're absolutely everywhere..

The variance of M6 was always pretty redamn-diculous in my head until you said the bit about lightness. That makes complete and utter sense now.

Granted my bolts were from about 2 cars and had a lot of brackets shipped as well, I barely was able to ship them before UPS closed and I figured give or take 30-40 lbs...50lbs. 50! That weight adds up really fast now that I've actually carried them all.

The lower control arm bolts have to be 3 lbs each. And the washers bout 1/2 lb.

It is crazy how much I have whittled away in this past week; I only have a couple cosmetic projects left.

The advertising company called and said my ABS plastic came in for my door panels. So I'll get those made this weekend. Decided I needed some padding for the roll bar and spontaneously bought some Aero Catch hood latches(locking) as well. I hear they are a bitch to install but it can't be worse than anything I've done so far.

Just need to bolt on my downpipe and figure out my wiring harness, once I get the shell back. Also, I reserved the hardtop someone had for sale here. Just waiting for an open weekend to drive to Sacramento, CA to pick it up.

Oof apologies about the book. I'm a little gossipy bitch right now.
*edited for hopeless grammatical errors*

Fireindc 12-04-2013 07:59 PM

If I took my car apart and had that many bolts, I 100% guarentee there would be at least a dozen left over. :rofl:

Props.

turbofan 12-04-2013 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1079699)
If I took my car apart and had that many bolts, I 100% guarentee there would be at least a dozen left over. :rofl:

Props.

see you SAID props but the 1 at the bottom of his last post with photos is from ME.

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1079708)
see you SAID props but the 1 at the bottom of his last post with photos is from ME.

Oh shit! Lets not turn this into a Vlad thread!:giggle:

I will take verbal and forumatically given props.:makeout:

Jeffbucc 12-04-2013 11:03 PM

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Hmm forum at my last post. Basically duplicolor won't fully (giggity) penetrate the fibers of the Buddy Club seats, it looks really terrible. Used 3 cans and it still wouldn't hide the red.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1386216201

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...c/IMG_0860.jpg

Peoples thoughts on going to an upholstery shop and just getting some black cloth/vinyl matches made to fit the foam on the Buddy Club? I have no idea what the price would be for 2 seats.

curly 12-05-2013 02:08 AM

Or put them in a bath of dye for a while? Like tie-dye.

Zaphod 12-05-2013 05:32 AM

I can't believe how clean all the nuts and bolts are... My project car had rusted bolts everywhere, so rusty that I broke at least 1/3rd of them...

Everytime I go to this thread and see your wonderful and soooo clean progress it makes me cringe about my own project - (I might have to redo all of it after I saw your work...)

Braineack 12-05-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1079768)
Or put them in a bath of dye for a while? Like tie-dye.

yes. go to a fabric store and get real black fabric dye...


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