I took a drill with a wire wheel to mine, and it came out surprisingly good. No cleaners or anything, just wirewheeled the crap out of it.
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Where did you buy the stock undertray? And how much was it?
My car is missing it, and I should probably get one... |
Use a soft wire wheel on the alternator that thing is quite easy to clean
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Get undertrays from Mazda. About $60.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
(Post 1089662)
Get undertrays from Mazda. About $60.
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Depends if the vendor is cheaper after shipping... That's a question only you can answer.
Rosenthal/Arlington/Finish Line or Mazda Motorsports are typically cheapest for me. |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1089640)
I took a drill with a wire wheel to mine, and it came out surprisingly good. No cleaners or anything, just wirewheeled the crap out of it.
Harbor Freight sells brass wire brushes that look like oversize toothbrushes. Usually available two for a buck. I stock up on them whenever I go there, and toss them when the bristles start to get bent over. Perfect for cleaning up delicate car parts. |
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You could take your alternator apart and clean it ;) (even repack the bearings while you're at it)
Alignment marks are your friend... This is from my mazda truck, but it should be close. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389204009 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389204009 |
Lebeouf that is baller. I'm not sure if I want to approach that.
Sending the intake manifold to get powder coated today. Should I do it wrinkle black to match the valve cover or a smooth solid black? Also sending the dash frame and the door sill plates(wasn't happy about the vht finish on it.) Also the rear main subframe, I'm really happy with how the front turned out. Door sill plates will be wrinkle black for a little bit of a stronger finish. |
You could send your alternator as well...
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Originally Posted by jimmyneutron
(Post 1089763)
You could send your alternator as well...
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1089764)
Would that mess with timing at all if i removed it?
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Originally Posted by Fireindc
(Post 1089806)
whut? Never mind figured it out. So I sent out Both intake manifold pieces Alternator housing with brackets/pulley Rear subframe Gas tank/fuel filter covers Hard top brackets Door sill plates Dashboard frame Can you tell I'm sick of sanding? Thank goodness this guy give me 50% off and doesn't charge me for blasting. |
Your attention to detail is incredible! Favorite miata on this forum now :)
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Intake same color as valve cover.
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Took off the old frame rails and laid down a a coat of rubberized under spray. I wasn't happy with the truck bed liner in terms of noise and chipping resistance, so I decided to protect it with a coat of rubberized under spray to dampen noise and help things bounce rather than chip.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389245272 Internals of alternator https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389245272 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389245272 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389245272 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389245272 Gonna let the rubberized undercoating cure before I put the FM Rails on. Then once that is done I'll do all the sound deadening. |
I knew from the moment I saw that other overachiever's disassembled alternator that pictures of your alternator, disassembled, were sure to follow.
And rubber undercoating? Saweet. |
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1089880)
I knew from the moment I saw that other overachiever's disassembled alternator that pictures of your alternator, disassembled, were sure to follow.
And rubber undercoating? Saweet. Yeah I blame a lot of you guys for projects going further than originally intended! |
was it difficult to disassemble, or did you just have to undo the long bolts and slide it apart?
never played with alternators. |
Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1089893)
Yeah I blame a lot of you guys for projects going further than originally intended!
BTW, resist the urge to clean the shaft where the brush rides (copper section below the bearing). Sure, wipe it down (alcohol or acetone), but don't try to sand or wire brush it, as this will mean the brush has to re-seat, accelerating wear. |
Those frame rails are a tight fit, and will likely scrape some of your freshly applied undercoating as you press them flush.
While the frame rails are off, make sure the drain holes in the car's rails are open. One thing I did not like about the FM rails is that the mounting studs for the fuel/brake line clips are on the bottom. I've had off-track excursions where the frame rails got scraped. In fact, the main reason I put frame rails on my car was to act as a skid plate. I'm working on a safer track solution for the line clips. I'll let you know what I come up with. (In other words, I'm fully expecting you to race ahead of me and solve this problem for me :D). Remind me on the door card material you used . . . ABS? |
Nice one on the alternator! Glad I could inspire.
It really isn't that bad. Just don't be a fool like me and assemble the case backwards. Then after that don't forget to remove the brush holder pin before you re-install... |
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Originally Posted by shlammed
(Post 1089928)
was it difficult to disassemble, or did you just have to undo the long bolts and slide it apart?
never played with alternators. Then after that is removed you'll think to try to pull the casing apart but first take out the middle assembly to reveal 4 more screws. Remove those and then you can separate the bottom of the housing from the alternator assembly. Very easy, just need to be delicate
Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 1089933)
Hey man, I just told you to spray it. ;)
BTW, resist the urge to clean the shaft where the brush rides (copper section below the bearing). Sure, wipe it down (alcohol or acetone), but don't try to sand or wire brush it, as this will mean the brush has to re-seat, accelerating wear. Thanks for the info rleete! Props!
Originally Posted by hornetball
(Post 1089951)
Those frame rails are a tight fit, and will likely scrape some of your freshly applied undercoating as you press them flush.
While the frame rails are off, make sure the drain holes in the car's rails are open. One thing I did not like about the FM rails is that the mounting studs for the fuel/brake line clips are on the bottom. (In other words, I'm fully expecting you to race ahead of me and solve this problem for me :D). Remind me on the door card material you used . . . ABS? I'm thinking of drilling a hole in the side of the rail and using my tap and die to match the bolt threads and relocate it to the factory mount locations. Or a simpler way would be to buy electrician stainless steel zip ties and zip tie it higher. The door cards were abs plastic. Speaking of which I'm not too happy with the door pulls. They work yes but by protecting the exposed metal of the door from rattling via the door latch rod it binds a bit and doesn't give it a solid feel, I think I might just go back to the regular door handles. Especially since Revlimiter sent me his Leather door pulls for free in my order! https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389292731
Originally Posted by leboeuf
(Post 1090037)
Nice one on the alternator! Glad I could inspire.
It really isn't that bad. Just don't be a fool like me and assemble the case backwards. Then after that don't forget to remove the brush holder pin before you re-install... |
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Also here are some color options I'm considering for the intake manifold.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389293767 I'm going for the far right, easier to clean since it is a smooth texture plus it matches the VHT wrinkle finish better. |
Agree. A glossy finish is always more resistant to dirt/easier to clean.
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A vote for the far right here. Moving right along, this has been a fun thread to follow!
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do it in an aluminum color imo.
black im's I have personally never liked. |
I agree, aluminum is good looking.
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Personally agree with alum, i'd just brush the alum and call it a day though. That way, no matter how many times I pull and replace the engine (read: too many damn times), i cant scratch it and mess up the finish (LOL).
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+1 on brushing the manifold. It lets the black valve cover stand out more and no chips.
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Well the problem is, it is currently being sandblasted at the powdercoaters. Should I just have them do a clear coat of some sort?(not sure if you can do that with powdercoating) or maybe even an "aluminum" color.
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TorqueZombie is a badass, sent this to me for free since he knows me to well and didn't want me to have a cracked diff spacer. Major thanks.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389340822 |
And as we all know you - that thing is going to be sandblasted, 24k goldplated and polished... ;-)))))
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1090228)
Well the problem is, it is currently being sandblasted at the powdercoaters. Should I just have them do a clear coat of some sort?(not sure if you can do that with powdercoating) or maybe even an "aluminum" color.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1090362)
Come on Jeff. Ball hard.
. . . . . https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389374409 That is insanity |
Like you aren't?
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1090367)
[IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=99483&dateline=1389374 409[IMG]
. . . . . [IMG]https://www.miataturbo.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=99484&dateline=1389374 409[IMG] As for the IM, I actually did what they're suggesting: sandblasted it then clear coated it in VHT satin clear. Check my thread for visual, I think it came out pretty nice, and looks "natural". I too don't think an IM looks all that great in black. |
Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 1090385)
Like you aren't?
You guys didn't have me convinced on a natural look until I started looking at painted manifolds. It looks, as you said, just wrong. Not bad mind you, just doesn't look good. Called the powder coater and he recommended an actual aluminum Powdercoating color that comes off pretty exact, after researching issues with just clear coating I think I'll go with that. |
Sweetness! Just sold my 18" wheels/tires for $1100 off my Jetta, now I can start looking for a hard top. I want to get the one in Sacramento but I honestly for the life of me can't think of when I'd get a chance to make a 20 hour round trip drive to grab it. Unless Vlad, you want to ship it via Greyhound for me!:giggle:
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1090501)
Sweetness! Just sold my 18" wheels/tires for $1100 off my Jetta, now I can start looking for a hard top. I want to get the one in Sacramento but I honestly for the life of me can't think of when I'd get a chance to make a 20 hour round trip drive to grab it. Unless Vlad, you want to ship it via Greyhound for me!:giggle:
I literally laughed out loud at the llama or whatever that thing was. awesome. |
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This is how you ship wheels and tires without damage and how I wish, when I bought used wheels, they would ship them to me.
Wrap wheels/tires in saran wrap then use packing foam on the rear lip and front face. Then use 2 pieces of cardboard on each side cut out to the size of the tire and tape it down several times. Then plastic wrap to your heart content and apply tape to all the seams/corners. Never once had an issue with damage. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389421503 |
Wheel/tire wrapping the Jeff way!
What's the story on those? Did you get new wheels? I'm thinking of coining a new term . . . "Jeffo." As in "Ghetto" as off-the-scale bad quality, "Jeffo" as off-the-scale good quality, with a large continuum between. I'd like to think I usually fall in the "Jeffo" half, but I'm not sure. LOL. |
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As long as we change the Jeffo part! That was a nickname growing up that made me want to destroy something beautiful. I believe you have redeemed yourself to fall into the latter!;) They were the 18" wheels on my Jetta but I got tired of the ride quality so I put my 16's back on and figured I'd try to sell them. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389453476 |
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Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1090649)
:makeout: <3 I was going to say the rest of the weekend free to wrench, but I think it will be mostly rolling and gluing the sound deadening in the cabin. Also finishing the undercoating, fame rails, and hard lines |
doesn't matter. Still the most perfect DD ever made thus far.
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I am wrecked from work this week so not a ton done tonight.
Cleaned the alternator as far as I really wanted to take it. I could do more but I got all the loose crap off of it at least. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389514480 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389514480 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389514480 Also put the final coats of underspray on the car. It looks sooooo good in person. That stuff is nasty though. I've left both garage doors open all night and it still feels iffy without my charcoal filter mask on. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389514480 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389514480 Just "plinking" your finger against the metal gives you a much duller sound reflection than the truck bed liner did. |
Hawt damn ... what brand is it?
I've been using SEM rustshield but it takes quite a while to dry on the OEM undercoating and is a bit too shiny for my tastes (even though I bought the matte). -Zach |
Originally Posted by thasac
(Post 1090950)
Hawt damn ... what brand is it?
I've been using SEM rustshield but it takes quite a while to dry on the OEM undercoating and is a bit too shiny for my tastes (even though I bought the matte). -Zach |
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I didn't get much done. I think I got sick from an employee that had bronchitis...anyways I feel like dying so I just sat on the couch most of the time wishing my joints and throat didn't feel on fire.
FM Frame Rails are in. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389601067 Sound deadening beginning. This stuff is a PITA to work with. Very sticky, doesn't want to lay flat, and you are in an awkward position so your body keeps seizing up. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389601067 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389601067 |
Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1091018)
I think I got sick from an employee that had bronchitis...
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I feel you man, i was sick for a week straight and it was literally the worst week of my life in the last few years. Horrible.
Get better soon. The car is looking amazing. |
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1091029)
Bronchitis is just an inflammation of your bronchi. You can't really give someone else bronchitis, however, you could give them the cold/flu virus that caused it...
:party: Received a "care package". Bought some old side view mirrors off a guy on here for the hardware and trim rings. Carefully removed the trim rings with my knife to take the glass off. The springs and nuts on the inside are still shiny gold anodized and not rusted hunks of metal that were mine. If anyone wants the plastic housings just pay for shipping and they are yours. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389659188 |
Jeff - are you alright...? This is the longest cliffhanger in this thread in the history of the thread...
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
(Post 1092406)
Jeff - are you alright...? This is the longest cliffhanger in this thread in the history of the thread...
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
(Post 1092409)
Sorry, I'm doing OK, just taking it easy. This cold/flu really knocked me on my ass.
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Ok here is the progress over the past 5 days, not much but it has all I have had time and really able to do.
Soaked the diff spacer mount in metal rescue, stuff is awesome, no labor involved and it just removes rust with ease. Looks brand new except for the paint. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 Painted it up https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 First layer of sound deadening done. Barely had enough for the entire cabin. Will probably need to buy some more if I'm going to do the trunk area. Any cracks in the matting I sealed with aluminum tape. Any holes I've covered up I'll cut out when I start bolting things in. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1389866771 Next layer will be closed cell foam followed by barium loaded vinyl barrier after. I didn't buy enough of both to do the entire car so I will only do the firewall/transmission tunnel/seating area. |
Jeff: I'm sick, can't do much.
Still does more than most people do in a week. We ought to make a meme out of you. |
I thought this was a track car?
Sound deadening looks good. Most frustrating part will be getting things bolted back down that used to rest against the metal...cutting out the deadener will be the frustrating part-it sticks pretty well. |
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