Aerodynamic Discussion Thread
#681
I agree with Leafy, at least for the ferrari. When you're making a lot of downforce with the underside of the car, you really have to worry about the splitter bottoming out and cutting off airflow to the underside. As soon as the splitter bottoms and you lose airflow, you lose the underbody downforce and the car lifts up off the ground. Airflow is restored when the car lifts, so downforce returns and sucks the splitter back onto the ground, cutting off airflow again. It's a vicious cycle that results in the car violently bouncing up and down, usually in heavy braking. A lot of cars that have serious underbody aero have a raised (or non-existent) center section on the splitter, so that the splitter can touch the ground without choking airflow to the underbody.
This problem doesn't just exist with flat floors and diffusers either. One of my friends tried a large, low splitter/undertray with really soft front springs, and he said the car was dangerous to drive in braking zones. It was so bad that he pulled the splitter off after the first session of the day.
This problem doesn't just exist with flat floors and diffusers either. One of my friends tried a large, low splitter/undertray with really soft front springs, and he said the car was dangerous to drive in braking zones. It was so bad that he pulled the splitter off after the first session of the day.
#682
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 3,304
Total Cats: 1,222
Love the diffuser on the Corvette prototype.
I've wondered for a while about the vortex generating "foot" on the outside edge of the Mazda Skyactiv splitter which is pointed right at the front tire. If it were outboard of the front tire (which I'm sure they can't do due to splitter width restrictions) it would make more sense, but as-is it's puzzling.
-Ryan
I've wondered for a while about the vortex generating "foot" on the outside edge of the Mazda Skyactiv splitter which is pointed right at the front tire. If it were outboard of the front tire (which I'm sure they can't do due to splitter width restrictions) it would make more sense, but as-is it's puzzling.
-Ryan
#683
Ryan,
I spoke to Henry from KazeSpec. He told me that they probably want to offset the front tire wake away from the underside of the car. Most of the tire wake is shed off the sidewalls and shedding a vortex in front of the tire will help deflect it outwards. This is true too of F1 cars, which have 2 vortex channels, one on the endplate and one pointed at the tire.
I spoke to Henry from KazeSpec. He told me that they probably want to offset the front tire wake away from the underside of the car. Most of the tire wake is shed off the sidewalls and shedding a vortex in front of the tire will help deflect it outwards. This is true too of F1 cars, which have 2 vortex channels, one on the endplate and one pointed at the tire.
#688
#690
this might be a good place to start:
http://kazespecengineering.com/wp-co...ero-101-20.pdf
http://kazespecengineering.com/wp-co...ero-101-20.pdf
#692
Long Beach Grand Prix
I went to the Long Beach Grand Prix yesterday with a pit pass, which allows unbelievable access to all the cool cars, from Indy to GTLM. The Indy cars are all basically built to "spec", so there are no aero secrets out there. Teams were perfectly happy to let anyone poke around their cars, take pictures of the steering wheels, everything. The GTLM and prototype cars were spectacular, and there's something cool about a massive Bentley set up for racing.
#695
THAT is a Gurney flap, or Wickerbill. It's appropriate that I took the picture in Long Beach, as that's Dan Gurney's home track.
Gurney flap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gurney flap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Last edited by cordycord; 04-19-2015 at 08:38 PM.
#696
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Race Track & St Pete FL
Posts: 640
Total Cats: 59
THAT is a Gurney flap, or Wickerbill. It's appropriate that I took the picture in Long Beach, as that's Dan Gurney's home track.
Gurney flap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gurney flap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia