need some greddy oil lines
#1
need some greddy oil lines
i've posted about this before, but I finally have some extra money to spend. I need a feed and return line for my greddy turbo kit. I'm planning on tapping the pan. If anyone has a suggestion on length and person to buy it from please let me know. i'm not confident enough to run to the part store and pick it out myself. thanks!!
#2
you need a m10x1.5 to -4an adapter to screw into the block. you need a 3 ft -4an stainless braided hose to run from the block adapter to the turbo, then you need either a 90* -4an to m10x1.25 elbow (with swivel ends) or 10x1.25 to -4an adapter to 90* elbow (-4an female to -4an female, swivel ends), or a banjo fitting configuration.
for -an stuff, if you can't find it locally, summit racing has it, or goto
http://www.anplumbing.com/
or
http://www.atpturbo.com
there has been discussion anout the proper size hose for the greddy and different atachment methods, so i'm going to let others suggest to you which is the best way to do that.
for the drain line, you can heat and bend the stock greddy return, so it points straight down, or try to find a threaded return. kind of like this.
i think if you called atp, told them what turbo you have and what you needed thet could help you all in one step.
a lot of this depends on how much you want to spend and what you can live with.
for -an stuff, if you can't find it locally, summit racing has it, or goto
http://www.anplumbing.com/
or
http://www.atpturbo.com
there has been discussion anout the proper size hose for the greddy and different atachment methods, so i'm going to let others suggest to you which is the best way to do that.
for the drain line, you can heat and bend the stock greddy return, so it points straight down, or try to find a threaded return. kind of like this.
i think if you called atp, told them what turbo you have and what you needed thet could help you all in one step.
a lot of this depends on how much you want to spend and what you can live with.
#3
i re-read that and it may seem a bit confusing. i don't think my coffee kicked in yet so let me try to better organize what you need and your options:
oil feed:
block-->10x1.5 to 4an adapter-->3ft 4an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->4an to 4an 90* elbow (female swivel ends)-->4an to 10x1.25 adapter-->turbo
block-->10x1.5 to 4an adapter-->3ft 4an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->4an to X adapter ( X = the thread/pitch of banjo fitting)-->banjo fitting with 10x1.25 banjo bolt-->turbo
block-->10x1.5 banjo to 3an-->3ft 3an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->3an to X adapter ( X = the thread/pitch of banjo fitting)-->banjo fitting with 10x1.25 banjo bolt-->turbo
oil drain:
turbo-->stock greddy drain-->rubber hose-->3/8" npt to hose barb-->oil pan
(i say 3/8"npt based off what FM/BEGI uses to tap the oil pan)
turbo-->threaded oil drain-->threaded adapter to hose barb-->hose-->3/8" npt to hose barb-->oil pan
turbo-->threaded oil drain-->threaded adapter to -8an or -10 an-->-8an or -10an braided hose with female swivel ends-->3/8" to -8 or -10 an adapter--> oil pan
not sure of the length of hose needed for the oil return.
oil feed:
block-->10x1.5 to 4an adapter-->3ft 4an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->4an to 4an 90* elbow (female swivel ends)-->4an to 10x1.25 adapter-->turbo
block-->10x1.5 to 4an adapter-->3ft 4an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->4an to X adapter ( X = the thread/pitch of banjo fitting)-->banjo fitting with 10x1.25 banjo bolt-->turbo
block-->10x1.5 banjo to 3an-->3ft 3an braided hose (female swivel ends)-->3an to X adapter ( X = the thread/pitch of banjo fitting)-->banjo fitting with 10x1.25 banjo bolt-->turbo
oil drain:
turbo-->stock greddy drain-->rubber hose-->3/8" npt to hose barb-->oil pan
(i say 3/8"npt based off what FM/BEGI uses to tap the oil pan)
turbo-->threaded oil drain-->threaded adapter to hose barb-->hose-->3/8" npt to hose barb-->oil pan
turbo-->threaded oil drain-->threaded adapter to -8an or -10 an-->-8an or -10an braided hose with female swivel ends-->3/8" to -8 or -10 an adapter--> oil pan
not sure of the length of hose needed for the oil return.
#7
-4an will work, others have used it before and haven't reported problems with blowing oil seals out. -3AN appears to be closer when comparing to the stock greddy oil FITTING.
You can do both ends using a -3an to banjo adapter, and just buy the right sized banjo bolt. You'd need m10X1.25 and m10X1.5 banjo bolts. I think everything I picked up were Earl's fittings, with the exception of the 10X1.5, which was Aeroquip.
Jay
You can do both ends using a -3an to banjo adapter, and just buy the right sized banjo bolt. You'd need m10X1.25 and m10X1.5 banjo bolts. I think everything I picked up were Earl's fittings, with the exception of the 10X1.5, which was Aeroquip.
Jay
#8
Braineack put me on to this drain kit, which I ordered for my greddy turbo.
http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html
Its the TD04 one
http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html
Its the TD04 one
#14
If mechanic will be pulling and installing the oil pan, plan on at least an extra $400 in labor. The first one I did I brazed in place and the second one just used JB Weld. Suggest the easiest and better method is the JB Weld. Doubt many shops will be able to weld together brass and aluminum.
#15
Yeah, the JB weld is the way to go. A couple of things, the thickness of the oil pan is thin so you'll only end up with two or three threads and that's why the JB Weld is necessary. Make sure you put on plenty around the entire nipple, do it when the engine is cool, and let it cure at least 24 hours before you start the engine. I only gave it a few hours on my first attempt and had to do it over
#16
You still have to pull the motor to pull the pan even if the tranny is out of the way this will mean abit more money the tap and jb weld mehtod is a staple of the miata communitie. as for the lines and fittings a would go to the local hydraulic shop and ge them to make you up some teflon inner stainless lines dont use that rubber crap you will regret it. good luck
#17
You still have to pull the motor to pull the pan even if the tranny is out of the way this will mean abit more money the tap and jb weld mehtod is a staple of the miata communitie. as for the lines and fittings a would go to the local hydraulic shop and ge them to make you up some teflon inner stainless lines dont use that rubber crap you will regret it. good luck
#19
I still have an open offer to do the oil pan tap for any visitor here at my house. Want to do one with the AC and PS. Your cost is $3 for the fitting, 1/2 gallon of mineral spirits, and parts for an oil change. Your job is to take pictures so I can make a better web page.
Have all tools needed.
Have all tools needed.
#20
you can tap further back on the pan if you have a right angle air tool and bits. I did it this way it gives a straighter down shot to the pan. but hey if you want to pull the entire front suspension loose and drop the subframe and then put it all back together and get it aligned then have at it. But i personally would tap the pan.